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Posted on
Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 09:13 am:
Prior to submitting first invoice, Sub requested from
Prime their Tax exempt Number. Prime is NOT tax exempt. Sub
assumed Prime was tax exempt on pass through costs on
Federal Contracts. In submitting their bid, Sub failed to
include their VA sales and use taxes in their FFP bid.
The RFP and subsequent Subcontract Agreement stated "Except
as may be otherwise provided in this Contract, the contract
price includes all applicable federal, state, and local
taxes and duties."
Sub explained that he is registered to collect Sales and Use
Taxes in MD and DC. He would have to "eat" the costs if the
Prime does not provide the equivalent MD forms for
exemption.
Please provide guidance re: pass through costs to the
Government and when sales/use taxes are applicable.
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Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 09:21 am:
Have you read FAR 29.303, "Application of State and local
taxes to Government contractors and subcontractors"? If not,
it may answer your questions. If so, what do you not
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:21 am:
I have read the clause but still don't have full
understanding of what it means in "plain english." Prime
pays Federal and State taxes and this issue has never come
up with a Sub charging S&U taxes. |
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:39 am:
FAR 29.303 is not a clause.
I presume that your contract with the government includes
the clause 52.229-3, "Federal, State, and Local Taxes (APR
2003)" and that the work is not in North Carolina or New
Mexico. Do your or the sub qualify for any state exemptions?
If so, can you get evidence to establish exemption from the
contracting officer in accordance with paragraph (h) of that
clause? If so, get it and pass it on to your sub.
As for subcontract price adjustments, keep it simple. You
said that the subcontract includes the following clause:
"Except as may be otherwise provided in this Contract, the
contract price includes all applicable federal, state, and
local taxes and duties." Is anything "otherwise provided"?
If not, tell the sub that the clause means what it says.
That is what the government is going to tell you. |
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:58 am:
Is my assumption that the prime contract is firm
fixed-price, as opposed to cost reimbursement, correct? If
so, as Vern indicated, don't expect a contract modification
to "pass through" to the government the additional costs
that the sub wants to be paid for. Clause 52.229-3 is used
in FFP contracts, but not in cost reimbursement contracts.
If you want to know if you are liable for the additional
costs, you appear to have included the terms of the prime
contract in your subcontract.
Now, if the prime contract is a cost reimbursement contract,
some additional discussion is warranted...
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:58 am:
The contract with the Government does not include clause
52.229-3. The only reference regarding taxes was in the
General Contract Provisions Section of the RFP. This section
was in our contract and the provision flow downs went to the
Sub.
Re: Is anything "otherwise provided." No.
The only item other item under the section of Federal, state
and local taxes addresses federal excise tax or duty. |
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Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 05:48 pm:
e, you didn't answer my question. Is this a FFP contract
with the government?
Also, Is the "General Contract Provisions Section" part of
your subcontract RFP or is it in the prime contract? What is
the reference, if it is in the prime contract?
What is the clause discussing federal excise taxes? I think
I know but please provide the clause number in your
contract.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 11:27 am:
I mentioned this in my initial post. Yes, this is a FFP
contract with the government.
The General Contract Provisions appeared as Section M in the
RFP and in the Prime Contract.
This are no clause numbers in the section entitled "Federal,
State, and Local Taxes."
a. Except as may be otherwise provided in this Contract, the
contract price includes all applicable federal, state, and
local taxes and duties.
b. Nevertheless, with respect to any federal excise tax or
duty on the transaction or property covered by this
Contract, if a statute, court decision, written ruling, or
regulation takes effect after the contract date and
1. results in the Contractor being required to pay or bear
the burden of any such federal excise tax or duty or
increase in the rate thereof which would not otherwise have
been payable on such transactions or property, the Contract
price shall be increased by the amount of such tax, duty, or
rate increase, provided that the Contractor, if requested by
the Contracting Officer, warrants in writing that no amount
for such newly imposed federal excise tax, duty, or rate
increase was included in the contract price as a contingency
reserve or otherwise; or
2. results in the Contractor not being required to pay or
bear the burden of, or in its obtaining a refund or drawback
of, any such federal excise tax or duty which would
otherwise have been payable on such transactions or property
or which was the basis of an increase in the Contract price,
the Contract price shall be decreased by the amount of the
relief, refund, or drawback, or that amount shall be paid to
the Board as directed by the Contracting Officer. The
Contract price shall be similarly decreased if the
Contractor, through its fault or negligence or its failure
to follow instructions of the Contracting Officer, is
required to pay or bear the burden of or does not obtain a
refund or drawback of any such federal excise tax or duty.
c. No adjustment pursuant to paragraph (b) above shall be
made under this Contract unless the aggregate amount thereof
is or may reasonably be expected to be more than two hundred
and fifty dollars ($250).
d. As used in paragraph (b) above, the term "contract date"
means the date set for the bid opening or, if this is a
negotiated Contract, the date of this Contract. As to
additional supplies or services procured by modificaiton to
this Contract, the term "contract date" means the date of
such modification.
e. Unless there does not exist any reasonable basis to
sustain an exemption, the Board, upon request to the
Contractor, without further liability, agrees, except as
otherwise provided in this Contract to furnish evidence
appropriate to establish exemption from any tax which the
Contractor warrants in writing was excluded from the
contract price. In addition, the Contracting Officer may
furnish evidence to establish exemption from any tax that
may, pursuant to this clause, give rise to either an
increase or decrease in the contract price. Except as
otherwise provided in this Contract, evidence appropriate to
establish exemption from duties will be furnished only at
the discretion of the Contracting Officer. |
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 02:36 pm:
Thanks, e. To clarify, in your initial post, you said
that the subcontract was FFP. You didn't mention the prime
contract type.
Now that it is clear that the prime contract is FFP, if this
is a federal contract that is subject to FAR rules, the
government was supposed to include the clause 52.229-3 in
the contract. Although I don't use the Uniform Contract
Format much, Section M of the prime contract is normally
considered to be for pre-award requirements. Clauses
pertaining to after award contract requirements are usually
included in the other sections of the contract.
However, you said that the "General Contract Provisions"
(this was a pre-FAR term that we used to use, at least on
Corps of Engineers contracts, for "contract clauses") are in
Section M of the (prime - I assume) contract. Okay,
regardless of the preceding discussion - the prime contract
general provision states that "Except as may be otherwise
provided in this Contract, the contract price includes all
applicable federal, state, and local taxes and duties." So,
the Feds aren't liable for any additional sales and use
taxes that the sub mistakenly thought it was exempt from,
therefore didn't include in its FFP subcontract proposal.
From your presentation, it would appear that the prime
contractor has also included the same or similar terms in
the subcontract. So - absent some other provision or term to
the contrary in the subcontract, the prime might not be
liable to the sub for state sales and use taxes not included
in the subcontract proposal, either. That is a matter
between the sub and prime according to the subcontract
terms, conditions and applicable state laws.
The subcontractor should have known or asked about state or
local sales and use taxes applicable to the specific
contract/location, etc.
Next point of clarification - if this not a Federal prime
contract, please advise. I'm curious...
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 04:04 pm:
This is a Federal prime contract with the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve.
Sub INSISTS that we must be tax exempt since we do work for
the Government. We are not tax exempt. Our position is that
there are no sales taxes OR sales and use taxes to the
Government for our services (i.e. labor). If the sub
provided "widgets" to us or some other type of tangible
property, then we would be subject to sales taxes. Is this a
fair assumption?
Thank you, J! |
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 04:19 pm:
e, each state establishes its own rules concerning
exemptions for federal contractors from sales or use taxes.
It is fairly easy to find out what your state(s) rules are.
You and the sub should not presume anything without
checking.
You should know what taxes are being imposed upon labor, so
I assume that you are correct. Sales taxes are usually not
charged on labor, but are charged on goods (and sometimes on
some services or rentals of stuff, things like movie or
theatre tickets, etc. ?).
I can only say that sales to the Federal Government are
normally exempt (under the Supremacy clause of the
Constitution, I think) from state and local sales taxes.
Sales to federal contractors are usually? often? considered
indirect sales to the federal government, thus not exempt
from sales taxes. But some states may be different.
I do pay sales taxes on gasoline for GSA vehicles with the
DoD gasoline credit card - but I think that DoD obtains a
credit when they pay the bills.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 05:45 pm:
e:
Don't assume anything with respect to exemption from state
taxes. Exemption eligibility varies by state and the fact
that a US Government contract is involved is not, in and of
itself, determinative. I've had evil surprises on state tax
liability under US Government O&M services contracts in
Colorado and Washington, DC.
Get advice on this from an expert practicing in the state(s)
involved.
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Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 12:17 pm:
I may have been wrong to do this,
but on a federal contract performed in Colorado
where I was a sub supplying materials I bought at Home
Depot,
I showed Home Depot a copy of the PRIME contract
and filled out a form
and they didn't charge me sales tax.
Last year on a federal contract performed in Arizona,
my first out-of-state job in years,
for sales tax exemption,
the State required an application in advance,
a $2,000 "bond" or escrow, which they would hold onto for 2
years,
all to avoid 7% tax on less than $20,000 in materials.
I learned this at the sales counter of a supplier,
as my workforce was mobilizing to the jobsite.
Poor planner that I was, I just sucked it up.
SO-
absolutely, it varies by State.
Check it out when bidding. |
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If it had been performed on tribal lands,
rather than on federal lands,
there was another set of rules altogether. |
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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 09:23 am:
While researching another issue I found that taxes are
discussed in GAO's Red Book regarding appropriation law.
While not exactly on topic with this discussion thread I am
adding the information for future reference. The discussion
can be found beginning at Page 4-289 of Vol 1 Chapter 4. |
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