By Mike W.
on Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 09:05 am:
Is anyone aware of any case law
that illustrates a successful way to implement FAR
15.305(a)(2)(iv), which states: "In the case of an offeror
without a record of relevant past performance or for whom
information on past performance is not available, the offeror
may not be evaluated favorably or
unfavorably on past performance."
OFPP Best Practices recommends to give an offeror half the
points available for past performance (e.g., 10/20 points).
However, I question how that doesn't treat him favorably
compared, say to an offeror with relevant past performance who
gets 9/20. Also, I wonder if there has been any case law
substantiating their suggested practice.
My first inclination was to not evaluate an offeror in that
factor at all, but that really makes an apples to apples
comparison close to impossible.
Any comments are greatly appreciated.
Mike W
By
Eric Ottinger on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 11:24 am:
Mike,
It would be fun to get some of the case law together because we
had a long thread on this issue awhile back. You are going to
find that the case law, the DoD Guide and the OFPP Guide are all
pretty much in sync.
The objective is to give the new start a fair chance to win, but
not to tilt the competition so far that the new start has an
unreasonable advantage. It would be nice if there was a single
formula to reach this result. But there is no single formula
that will produce the desired result in every situation.
You will have to pick an approach that you expect will strike
the right balance for your particular competitive situation.
You can give the new start the best rating. You can give the new
start the average rating. You can give the new start no rating
at all.
Personal Opinion: Your selection decision should be based as
much as possible on an objective risk assessment. The new start
can demonstrate low risk by hiring experienced managers or
teaming with experienced subcontractors.
A new start that doesn’t demonstrate anything other than a total
lack of experience shouldn’t expect to win unless there is very
little competition. That is, all other things (like price) being
equal, “neutral” should never beat “good” or “excellent.”
Here is bit of the transcript that I made from the Part 15
Rewrite team satellite broadcast. I think you will find that the
case law is entirely consistent with the thoughts of the Rewrite
team.
NEUTRAL PAST PERFORMANCE RATING:
LeAntha D. Sumpter: ““Neutral ratings” was probably one of the
more controversial aspects. In fact, [it]…was one of the few
changes that changed between the last proposed rule and the
final rule. The biggest change was the recognition that the FAR
Council and the team didn’t have all the answers. And that, what
the statute requires is that no offeror either be disadvantaged
or advantaged for the lack of past performance, that they
receive some kind of equal treatment with other offerors. The
nature of how “equal” is “equal” unfortunately we failed to
define. So therefore, the specific nomenclature of “neutral” was
removed from the rule and does not appear in the final rule. In
fact, the statutory language appears in the final rule, in
recognition of the fact that this is an area which we feel
experience will probably fill in the gaps far better than those
of us that try to predict the future.”
Nathan Tash: “…I have one thing to add to that. …We had a great
deal of difficulty trying to define how you would work with a
“neutral” past performance rating. Something the FAR does
include for the first time, however, are ways you can come up
[with] or evaluate an offeror based on past performance. Either
use predecessor companies or, perhaps, the past performance of
key personnel. There are a lot of ways you can come up with a
past performance rating for an offeror, even a new entrant into
the market, that will really abate the need for a neutral past
performance rating.”
Melissa D. Rider: “The neutral past performance rating will
really be given very rarely, if at all.”
David A. Drabkin: “That’s the whole idea that we will rarely
find a case where there is an entrant into the marketplace that
either as a company or a derivative company or as … when you
look at their staff or their technical people that somewhere in
there, there aren’t people who had some experience at doing
business whether with the government or in the private sector.
That’s important for everybody to understand, is that past
performance is not just past performance with the government,
its past performance with anyone in a business context that’s
relevant to the source selection.”
Eric
By
Kennedy How on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 12:07 pm:
I have to wonder why the
evaluators would give somebody with relevant past performance
only a "9" out of 20. There must be some reason why you would
score somebody under half the points available. What you are
saying, in this case, is that the neutral is a better choice
than the person with relevant past performance.
In that case, I don't really see any problems. If the offeror
with relevant past performance was a solid offeror in this area,
they should get over "10", in which the issue goes away.
Kennedy
By
Eric Ottinger on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 12:15 pm:
Kennedy,
Although it is important to keep the conceptual distinction
between performance and experience in mind, most solicitations
use a single factor, which encompasses both in some fashion; for
instance: “past performance doing similar work.”
The offeror who receives 9 points out of 20 may have
demonstrated substantial experience but mediocre performance.
Eric
By
Mike W. on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 02:48 pm:
Eric's correct. In my example,
the offeror with 9/20 points had relevant, but mediocre,
performance.
When the FAR speaks about "relevant" past performance, I think
that clearly indicates that experience is encompassed in past
performance. I know there are conflicting court cases in this
area, however, if "relevance" doesn't directly tie in experience
what other meaning could it possibly have?
By
Eric Ottinger on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 02:56 pm:
Mike,
I think you would have a hard time actually finding those
"conflicting court cases."
Eric
By
Mike W. on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 03:41 pm:
Eric,
Nash & Cibinic, in "Formation of Government Contracts" (Third
Edition) state that, "...the cases are conflicting on the issue
of whether experience is included within the assessment of past
performance." This text states that in one GSBCA case (GSBCA
13272-P, 95-2BCA, the board states that " 'it is unreasonable to
suggest that past performance does not encompass experience.'"
However, in Comp Gen Dec. B-272526 the CompGen "indicated that
experience was not included in the evaluation of past
performance." N&C go on to state that, "Other cases appar to
indicate that there is a good deal of confusion on this issue"
and they reference other cases. (See page 736-737 of the
paperback version of the above referenced text.)
By
Vern Edwards
on Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 08:46 pm:
Mike W.
The best thing you can do for yourself is to research the GAO
decisions. Go to
http://www.gpo.gov, then click on Access to Government
Information Products. Scroll down to General Accounting Office
and click. Choose Comptroller General Decisions and when the
search engine appears type <"past performance" AND neutral>. You
will get a large number of decisions. Read the decisions in
which neutral assessments are mentioned in the digest
paragraphs. You will get many examples of successful
implementation of FAR 15.305(a)(2)(iv).
You can also email me privately and I will give you some ideas.
By
Eric Ottinger on
Tuesday, June 19, 2001 - 09:37 pm:
Mike,
Yes. Sure.
This is pretty much the place that an ugly thread finished up a
year or two ago.
I don’t doubt that you can find some cases like that if you go
back far enough.
You aren’t going to find any recent cases (say over the last
three years) that would cause you to question the guidance in
the OFPP Guide (recently updated) and the DoD Guide.
There is no problem if you wish to address performance and
experience with the same factor. It is done all of the time.
If you wish, I can cite any number cases to demonstrate that the
advice in the OFPP Guide and the DoD Guide is OK with the courts
and the Comp. Gen.
I’m not going to look for a case that contradicts this guidance
because I don’t think there is one.
Perhaps, one of the “experts” who were so hard over on this
issue, will undertake to find a recent case.
I shouldn’t have given you such an abrupt response. I’m pleased
that you brought this issue up. It will be interesting to see
what develops.
Eric
By
Kennedy How on
Friday, June 22, 2001 - 12:23 pm:
Well, yes, I can see where we've
used past performance and experience as one combined factor.
But, look behind what you just said. What you said, in relation
to the 9/20 guy, is that he has lots of experience at mediocre
performance. If that's what you want, you should score him
higher. On the other hand, if mediocre performance ISN'T what
you want, maybe it's time to try somebody else, then you might
realistically want to score the neutral as a 10/20.
The point is this: You have somebody writing a source selection
plan, that will allow to select the best offeror to provide what
you require. In that sense, if you are satisfied with a
historically mediocre performer, then that's what the plan
should reflect. If you want to get away from this type of guy,
then your plan should reflect the ability to pick somebody with
less actual performance, but more potential.
I remember the days where we had a guy who was chronically
delinquent, but always provided top-notch items. He was always
low, but not by much. There was another guy who was a pretty
good contractor, on time, but his products weren't as top notch,
but met our "minimum requirements". But, since this guy was
always 5-10% higher, we couldn't do anything about it. In a case
like this, it'd be appropriate to evaluate the tradeoffs between
cost, quality, and delivery.
Kennedy
By
Anonymous
on Friday, June 22, 2001 - 08:34 pm:
There's a consulting firm I know
that does great technical work and the program offices love
them. They get tons of business even though they charge high
labor rates. Their gross margins are so high that they can
afford to send 5 to 6 managers to meetings that one accounting
technician could take care of. They get a lot of their work from
my agency sole source (only one particular "expert" can do the
job and he works for this company)or they win trade offs due to
quality of work..
The firm's accounting and billing is so bad that I have spent 40
manhours trying to get one delivery order to balance with what
was proposed while another company working an equivelent task
order was done in 2 hours. Reports are late a good percent of
the time but the program office just says that it is ok because
"good work takes time".
The program office knows that the company is always late and
trys to over bill, but the company is invited back over and over
again.
This firm has three chrome and glass towers not due to great
pricing, on time delivery, or ease of administration. They just
have the program office personnel believing that they have the
best "experts" in the field.
I have mentioned this to KO's from other agencies and they
report that they dislike this firm for the same reasons but
their program office's also insist on using them.
What is the purpose of my rant? It is just to say that in the
trade off process, on time delivery, saving funds and good
billing practices are usually not as important as credentials,
good PR, and friends in high places.
By
ex-fed on Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 12:43 pm:
One does sometimes wonder how
much of this sort of "product quality" is due to smoozing and
PR.
I've also seen firms with such reputations, higher cost and
continued repeat business that I thought worth the price. They
also took pride in being on time, providing accurate billing and
made it clear that they saw quality as being pervasive.
I have to wonder about a firm's real quality when it allows such
deficiencies in critical areas. I also have to wonder at
government procurement that allows this to continue. It seems
somewhat like continuing to patronize a restaurant with
absolutely great tasting food, paying the high check, and all
the time fully knowing the quality does not extend back into the
kitchen on sanitation and may cause illness. No thanks.
As far as I am concerned the public employees allowing this to
continue without penalty are negligent.
By
Tellum on Sunday, June 24, 2001 - 07:05 pm:
Anonymous:
I'll bet that more often than not the contractor's reports are
"late" and that it "overbills" because the program office makes
changes to the work as the contractor performs, adding this or
that requirement without telling you. I'll bet that's why the
program office doesn't complain about late reports.
As you said, the contractor does "great technical work." (That's
why it has the glass towers.) The program office couldn't care
less about your problems.
And I'll also bet that your problems are due in part to the
Government's ridiculous invoicing requirements and payment
procedures. I'm a contractor who does work for both the
Government and the private sector. When I bill my private sector
clients a simple three line email will do; but to bill the #@%*
Government I have to fill out EFT and other forms or register at
half a dozen websites and submit my life history along with ten
copies of the invoice. Then I get to wait three months to get
paid after placing six calls to someone who is never at his or
her desk and who, when finally reached, claims that they never
received the invoice or heard of my company.
There are bad contractors and there are lousy customers.
By
Anonymous
on Sunday, June 24, 2001 - 07:30 pm:
Tellum has a point about excess
government invoicing requirements. On the other Tellum is off
base by a mile. A government contractor responding to modified
requirements that increase cost by the PO without having the
contracting office in the loop is just plain stupid. I even
doubt large companies would pay a "three line email" invoice
under the equivalent circumstances.
The government system is no secret. The PO is constrained by law
and regulation. It is almost as if a private corporation
published clear guidelines and made them part of all contracts
that it had a particular chain of command with respect to
contracts, that people outside that chain had no authority to
modify contracts and payment would not be made for work done
outside the recognized and authorized process. I think Tellum
would have a bit of difficulty with that e-mail if it turned out
the delay and overbill was the result of disregarding clear
ground rules.
Some companies may be so foolish as to leave the door open to
every employee having contract direction authority. Most do not
as seen in almost all printed "customer agreements." The
government has similar rules and if anything overpublishes them.
Only if the PO and contracting shop are negligently flouting
those rules would I have any sympathy for the contractor in the
situation Tellum describes in the first paragraph. The
contractor is knowingly "at risk."
By
Tellum on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 02:25 pm:
Anonymous:
If contractors waited for the contracting office to get into the
loop before responding to changes in Government requirements,
nothing would get done. Contractors respond to the customer,
which means the program office. We do it now; we have always
done it; and we always will do it, contracting officers be
damned. We do it because the program offices are the ones with
the need and the money. In your case, as you say, it doesn't
seem to hurt the contractor. Although a good CO can be a real
help to everybody and can make things happn, most of them are
pains in the you-know-what and contribute little value-added. If
you don't believe me, ask government program personnel.
Plenty of private sector clients pay on the basis of three line
emails! Problems are sorted out by telephone between the
contractor and the client. Some big companies are bureaucratic
and pay slow, but I've never run into one as bureaucratic or as
slow-paying as the Government.
When dealing with the private sector I don't have to mess around
with "contracting officers." I just finished $25,000.00 job for
a large, well-known firm, and I got paid before I even saw the
purchase order. The invoice was an email to the customer's
project manager. No problem. I did a $12,000.00 job for a
Government agency in strict accordance with the rules and they
were so confused about their own payment procedures that it took
me six months to get paid. (They paid three months worth of
interest.)
Complex change order rules, invoicing instructions, and payment
procedures are typical of the Government, not the private
sector. Contractual relations in the private sector are based on
trust and the long-term view, not on lengthy contract documents
and invoicing instructions. The main exception is Government
prime contractors; some of them have been infected by their big
customer.
And don't blame the regs. I know the FAR and the DFARS better
than most of the COs that I deal with and the regs are not
nearly as bad as they say they are. I wish I had nickel for
every CO that I've had to educate.
By
Linda Koone
on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 04:02 pm:
Tellum's educating COs while
admitting that he doesn't take direction under a contract from
the CO.
A nickel for every CO that Tellum educated?
If he's educated 5,000 of them, that's only $250.00, so it makes
me wonder if Tellum is solely responsible for the current state
(with respect to education) of the federal contracting corps?
By
Tellum on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 04:46 pm:
$250 may not sound like much, but
I need the money to eat while I'm waiting for payment from DFAS.
By
Anonymous
on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 07:59 am:
You're right ,its not the regs...its
people such as yourself that generate the most problems for
COs.Contractors and program officers generate changes which
require additional funding for example but neither bother to
inform the contract admin folks and then you wonder why you
cannot just present an invoice and get paid. Its nice you're so
responsive to the governments needs...but one does so at ones
risk.
By
Anonymous
on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 10:30 am:
I have a feeling Tellum would
have the same problem with private industry if he and a lower
level manager conspired to bust the budget and corporate got an
unexpectedly large bill for a delayed gold brick product. At the
least he'd find himself "off the list" and the manager would be
pounding pavement. Tellum would also find there is no appeals
process or "fairness" whining because once he gets on the wrong
side of those who really control budget in industry he's dead
meat. At worst he'd be in court having real fun.
Since the Program Offices in government do not really control
the budget (Congress does) as Tellum mistakenly states and only
manage their allocation Tellum and the Program Offices in
collusion need a swift kick from an IG and possibly a
Prosecutor's office. We've been winking at this garbage too long
and believing it is only "efficiency." It is actually
inefficient as it allows these little (and not so little) side
deals to go on with damage to the larger picture.
As an example, I've known programs that had to slow down because
another had gotten in similar trouble and soaked anticipated
budget. Tellum's "solution" is not business. It is how to raid
the public purse and grab a chunk with selfish disregard of any
public interest.
An efficient program will communicate and coordinate with
internal government and external contracting people to solve the
problems within the system without the reckless collateral
damage actions such as Tellum describes cause. What Tellum
describes is more similar to the big hog crawling into the
trough for more feed. Frankly, some stripes, not pin stripes,
sound good here.
By
Anonymous
on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 11:41 am:
ANON 10:30
Amen
By
Vern Edwards
on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 12:24 pm:
Anonymous--
I think you went over the top in the way you've reacted to
Tellum, what with your references to IGs and prosecutors. I
re-read Tellum's comments and while I think that he/she has been
needlessly provocative, I didn't see any description of anything
illegal on his/her company's part. I think Tellum is describing
what is probably a pretty routine way of doing business under
government contracts. The program office wants something done
and asks the contractor to do it before telling the contracting
officer about its plans. The contractor tries to be responsive
to its "customer," knowing that there is some risk, but not too
much.
In any event, Tellum's company is not breaking any law by simply
doing what the program manager asks it to do without first
checking with the contracting officer. It's just taking a chance
that it won't get paid. I don't know of any standard clause that
forbids contractors from doing that, and contracting
officers usually just warn contractors that they do it at their
own risk. In my nearly thirty years of experience I've come to
believe that's not much of a risk.
Tellum did not say that program offices control the "budget";
what Tellum said was that they control the "money," which I
assume means the money that has already been appropriated. If
so, then Tellum is right. If the program manager has the money
and wants to pay the contractor for the work, then the
contractor will get paid for the work. The most the contracting
officer can do is hassle them.
Moreover, the government program manager may not be violating
any statute by making an unauthorized commitment. An
unauthorized commitment is not necessarily a violation of the
Anti-Deficiency Act, and I don't know of any statute that
provides for criminal penalties for making unauthorized
commitments.
Tellum's comments should lead us to ask why program managers and
contractors violate the rule that says only a contracting
officer may obligate the government. I believe that many of them
violate that rule routinely. Perhaps the rule is not
well-adapted to practical realities and so people do what they
always do--they adapt, they improvise, they overcome. I believe
that some of them do it with the tacit approval of the
contracting officer. Most of them don't do it with any criminal
intent; they do it because they think they need to in order to
get things done. They continue to do it despite warnings and
threats because they do not perceive the warnings and threats to
be credible.
Responding to comments like Tellum's with threats of IG
investigations and criminal prosecutions simply further isolates
contracting officials from program officials and contractors
without solving the underlying problem. Besides, I don't think
you have a snowball's chance in Hades of getting a Federal
prosecutor to take action on the kind of thing Tellum has
described.
By
formerfed on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 12:40 pm:
I completely agree with Vern's
comments. What Tellum describes is reality. There are COs that
show genuine interest in their programs. Most program managers
are thankful for that kind of CO support. However, in too many
cases, CO's don't want to get concerned in technical and program
details and can't spare the time. It's the old "that's not my
job" attitude, and that leads to the routine situation Tellum
describes - the work gets done, changes are made by programs and
the contractor, and the CO gets involved after everything is
worked out.
By
Anonymous 10:30 on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 01:15 pm:
Perhaps IG and Prosecutor action
is wishful thinking and "over the top" but something needs to be
done to stop the rogue processes Tellum describes and apparently
others at least endorse by turning a blind eye and justifying as
"business like." In reality it is not a contracting officer
problem. It is a management problem. The real solution lies in
the hands of the top management and links right up the chain to
the Cabinet heads. The agency manager should not tolerate this.
If so, the next level up should not.
What Tellum describes is a tree view with disregard for the
forest. Projects and programs are interrelated. They may be
tightly related with unfortunate schedule and budget
dependencies. They may be very loosely related with the only
consequence being a sucking up of funding needed by other
efforts to meet the unexpected needs of Tellum's little games
with his/her PM. In either case it is a disease that spreads
throughout the agency. I've seen, and I expect others have too,
a number of efforts who ran this sort of private gaming so that
the agency's mission was degraded by multiple schedule and
budget problems. Everybody got sick due to a few careless or
loose dealing efforts with contractor and government teams
acting as if they were the only effort in town.
In the first case Tellum's technique solves one project's
problem at the expense of the overall program's schedule and
budget. Part of this is the government's own fault in not
adequately isolating the full program under one strong Program
Manager who wouldn't tolerate for a minute these rogue projects.
In the second case the technique has no direct schedule effect
on other programs. It has an indirect effect. The agency is
reluctant to take the hard and correct legal path of exercising
discipline on its own rogue players and facing court action to
deny payments to the cooperative contractor. It then
"reallocates" resources to pay the bill. As a result well
managed programs find current or out year reserves vanishing.
They may even be ordered to scrub their own schedules to squeeze
out funding for the sick program. I've seen it. I'm sure others
have seen it as well. The result is not private industry
efficiency, it is a generally sick set of efforts injuring the
agency's mission.
No private company who expects to stay out of Chapter Seven or
Chapter Eleven will tolerate such behavior. Payments may be
streamlined and there may be no money colors (R&D, O&M, etc.),
but any manager running off with their contractor to cause such
havoc will not last long. The contractor won't be invited back
and there is no Congressman to run to for assistance. Dead meat
without appeal is a good description. I've seen that too.
An "excellent product" delivered at cost of overall chaos is not
an excellent product. It is a well oiled, self serving disease
organism in the corporate body. Efforts can be efficient and
react to unexpected needs without such rogue action. It takes
discipline. Continued acceptance of what Tellum describes in
government is a true "waste, fraud and abuse."
By
Anonymous
on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 01:54 pm:
ANON 10:30
AMEN AGAIN.
By
Vern Edwards
on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 02:10 pm:
Anonymous--
What Tellum has described does not come anywhere close to being
fraud, waste and abuse.
Program officials decide whether or not to spend money and how,
not contracting officers. If they mismanage their money it does
not matter whether they did it through unauthorized commitments
or authorized commitments.
Unauthorized commitments are not good things. But you won't
prevent them by charging well-meaning people with fraud, waste
and abuse. Prevention will requirement a more thoughtful
analysis of the problem.
By
Eric Ottinger on
Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 03:01 pm:
All,
I agree with Vern.
We should be nice to Tellum. Anyone willing to speak so frankly
in this chat room should be welcome.
I don't know what kind of statement of work he has. It may be
very general with a lot of room for interpretation.
I don't know anything about his PCO.
I don't know whether the direction and redirection that he
receives from his technical counterpart results in any
significant cost impact.
One thing that I learned early on is not to jump to any large
conclusions until I have all of the facts.
On the other hand, no contracting officer, who knows what he/she
is doing, is going to agree that anyone should be giving
significant technical direction without the contracting office
in the loop.
Tellum knows this. That is why he is having so much fun poking
us.
Eric
By
Anon2U on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 05:50 pm:
As I promoted in a different
string, the program manager should be the "business manager"
since he controls his budget and he should be held responsible
for good business decisions. The contracting officer should be
the specialist that helps him make better decisions by informing
him of the regulations and the law. I even suggested contracting
officers should get law degrees versus MBAs.
Program office personnel almost always have more market research
information than contracting personnel because they specialize
and are constantly researching the equipment, supplies and
services that pertain to their small area of expertise. KO's, in
most cases, cannot specialize and are constantly trying to
diversify in order to get the broad knowledge needed for
promotion. I feel the technician is not doing his job of being
an expert in his field if I know about the market than he does.
By
Anon2U on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 05:52 pm:
P.S. It seems we've strayed a
long way from the "neutral rating for past performance" that
started this. |