By
Anonymous
on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 06:59 am:
Do you compare the subject modification to the original
contract alone or the original contract and the modifications to
date?
By
joel hoffman on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 07:59 am:
That's a pretty broad question. Yes and no, regarding
comparison of the contract and the mods to date. It depends upon
the specific scope of the proposed mod. For instance, if
out-of-scope work has already been added to the contract by mod,
you also examine the scope of that work, if the mod would relate
to its scope. If you've already "stretched" the scope of the
contract, magnitude wise, you may have to be careful about a
really substantial further addition. I can't make one flat
statement to fully answer your question.
Can you elaborate? If you have access to Nash and Cibinic's
Administration of Government Contracts, there is excellent
coverage, beginning on page 382.
At any rate, one doesn't, as a general rule, simply compare the
proposed mod with the original contract alone. happy sails! joel
By
Dave Barnett on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 08:15 am:
I think the "reasonable person" rule comes into effect and
what was the intent of the parties question comes into play. I
would use the contract, as modified, in order to determine the
"reasonable" interpretation on the parties intent.
By
Anonymous
on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 08:27 am:
Let me get this straight. The government awards modification
4 and it is beyond the original scope but nobody protested and
it slipped by. Now, modification 28 is awarded and it is clear
that it is beyond the scope of the original contract--without
any modifications. You are telling me that modification 28 is OK
because nobody caught modification 4 and it is within the scope
of the contract as modified by modification 4?
By
joel hoffman on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 09:21 am:
Anon, if you are asking me, I didn't tell you any such thing.
Did I say anything about any out-scope mod, IMPROPERLY added to
a contract?
Your problem is that you used a scattergun approach to asking
your question, then expanded my qualified answer to mean
something I never said.
Please restate your orignal question and clarify it as I
originally requested. happy sails! joel hoffman
By
joel hoffman on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 09:29 am:
Anon, for your benefit, I too, will restate my original
answer:
That's a pretty broad question. Yes and no, regarding comparison
of the contract and the mods to date. It depends upon the
specific scope of the proposed mod.
For instance, if out-of-scope work has already been properly
added to the contract by mod, you also examine the scope of that
work, if the mod would relate to its scope.
If you've already "stretched" the scope of the contract (with
in-scope mods which have already expanded the original scope of
work or dollar value of the contract, but are still within
scope)you may have to be careful about a really substantial
further addition.
I can't make one flat statement to fully answer your question.
Can you elaborate?
If you have access to Nash and Cibinic's Administration of
Government Contracts, there is excellent coverage, beginning on
page 382.
At any rate, one doesn't, as a general rule, simply compare the
proposed mod with the original contract alone. happy sails! joel
By
Anonymous
on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:35 am:
Joel,
I hate to admit it but Iread your response the same as Anon of
Jan 4 did - even your restatement of your answer. Personally, I
would go back to the original contract and intent and not rely
on what might have been put into the contract by the one mod
that "stretched" the scope. I have worked with several Army and
Navy organizations that try to sometimes base "scope" on the
dollar amount of the increase. Some used a 10% increase in the
costs, others have had an "unoffical" policy that more than 50%
increase represents "out-of-scope". I am not advocating this
type of approach just pointing out that different agencies and
organizations use various methods for determining scope.
By
Vern Edwards on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 09:49 am:
Anonymous and Joel:
The original question was: "Do you compare the subject
modification to the original contract alone or the original
contract and the modifications to date?"
Logically, prior contract modifications that were within the
scope of the original contract didn't change the scope of the
original contract. Thus, when deciding whether or not a proposed
mod would be within the scope of the contract you consider the
scope of the original contract.
If any prior modification changed the scope of the original
contract and was properly justified and approved in accordance
with FAR 6.303, then when deciding whether or not a proposed mod
would be within the scope of the contract you should consider
the scope of the contract as changed.
If any prior modification changed the scope of the original
contract, but was not properly justified and approved in
accordance with FAR 6.303, then when deciding whether or not a
proposed mod would be within the scope of the contract you must
consider the scope of the original contract.
Make sense?
While it is not uncommon for some agencies to use the relative
dollar value of a proposed mod as a guide in determining whether
or not it is within scope, that is not always a reliable method.
See Cibinic and Nash, Administration of Government Contracts,
3d ed., pp. 386-388.
Keep in mind something that Eric Ottinger pointed out recently
in another thread: some people and courts use the term "scope of
the contract" rather loosely to refer to the requirement as
currently specified. In that usage, all mods change the
scope of the contract. Eric took the position that there is a
difference between "plain" scope of the contract and "general"
scope of the contract.
There is no denying that some people--including some
judges--talk or write as though every change is a change in the
scope of the contract. I discussed that matter with Ralph Nash
after Eric brought it up and he said that judges are often
careless in their use of the term. Prof. Nash did not think that
there is any recognized difference between plain "scope" and
"general scope." In his book, Government Contract Changes,
2d ed. (Federal Publications, Inc., 1989), p. 4-2, he wrote:
"All Changes clauses state that the Contracting Officer's
authority to make changes is limited to changes that are 'within
the general scope of the contract.' Considerable confusion has
been caused by misuse of these words. Frequently, both
contractors and Government representatives will speak of any
change that results in additional costs as a 'change in scope'
or as a 'scope change.' Such usage is clearly improper since it
implies that the change is outside the scope of the
original contract while the clause requires changes to be
within the scope. From a legal viewpoint, a change outside
the scope of the contract is a new procurement that the
Government is not authorized to order and the contractor
is not obligated to perform."
See, too, the entry for scope of the contract in The
Government Contracts Reference Book, 2d ed., by Nash,
Schooner and O'Brien, p. 460.
My point is that when discussing "scope" issues you have to make
sure that everyone is on the same wavelength.
By
joel hoffman on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 02:02 pm:
Thanks, Vern. I agree with you.
Anon, what I was trying to say was:
1. For the original contract scope, you must be careful. If a
lot of additional in-scope work has been added already, at some
point, the magnitude of the modified contract with further
additional work added IS one factor to consider in determining
whether the added work is within scope. We once had a contract
for remediation of contaminated soil at a formerly used Ammo
Plant that grew, little by little from $7 million to $35
million! Each increment looked ok, when compared with the
current contract scope - - but the final contract didn't
resemble the "as anticipated scope at award"... We got away with
that, because nobody outside the District paid any attention to
the modified vs. awarded magnitude of work. We added the work to
the existing contract because the State Environmental Management
Board would never issue another RCRA Permit for an incinerator,
plus the mob/demobilzation cost was $5 million for every
separate contract. It made sense to add the work to the existing
contract, even though the actual scope of dirt to be cleaned
increased by 10 or 15 times the original area/volume.
2. NOW, NEW THOUGHT - NOT RELATED TO 1 ABOVE - DON"T MIX THE
TWO. Out-of-scope work can be added to the contract for
convenience, by means of an out-of-scope supplemental agreement,
after obtaining the appropriate exemption to competition. The
primary reason an out-of-scope supplemental agreement is usually
added to an existing contract is for convenience - simply to
save issuing a separate contract. One could optionally issue a
separate contract for the work.
For subsequently proposed additional work, one must determine
whether the additional, new work is within the scope of either
the originally awarded contract scope or the separately added
scope of work, not just the original award. Why? because you now
have two scopes of work under one contract number.
That's why I said you can't simply say compare only the
originally awarded scope or only compare the contract, as
modified. At any rate, I still recommend that you read up on
Nash and Cibinic's discussion, if you don't have any other
sources.
Sorry for the confusion. happy sails! joel
By
Eric Ottinger on
Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 08:32 pm:
Vern,
For continuity I have responded to your last post under the
original "Fee-Bearing Costs" thread.
Eric
By
bob antonio on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 11:30 am:
Look at the two Comptroller General decisions listed on this
page.
http://www.wifcon.com/pd6_001.htm
Also, look at the Court's explanation |