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anon1 on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 11:12 am:
Situation: By Ron Vogt on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 12:19 pm: The first thing to remember is that your subcontract is a
commercial contract, not a government contract. Sure, you flowed
down a lot of FAR clauses, but you are not the government, and
you can't rely on any government contracting principles to do
what you want to do. By Eric Ottinger on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 12:29 pm: Anon1, By anon1 on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 12:41 pm: Ron, if this is a commercial contract, then why flow FAR clauses down if you can't depend or utilize them in the administration of the contract. Notwithstanding that one of our stipulations on our terms and conditions state that if the subcontract is a result of a Government Prime, certain issues would be decided under Federal venue instead of State. What are we missing-Again thks for the input. Further, if I can't use FAR in the contract interpretation, how do I successfully use termination for convenience without breaching the contract since commercial contracting has no counterpart for TforC By Ron Vogt on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 01:49 pm: Anon1: I think you may have misunderstood my post. I never
said that FAR clauses would not apply. I said that
certain FAR principles would not. There's a big difference. A
FAR clause will apply if you flow it down, but it reads just
like any other clause between you and your sub. FAR principles
that are extra-contractual, like the Christian Doctrine, will
not apply to your subcontract. By anon1 on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 02:38 pm: Eric, in answer to you question, their "consultant" is advising them not to do a "BI" if we won't agree to increasing the fee under this CPFF arrangement. That's where the CPPC issue came up. I know what I would really like to do. Unfortunately, I took this over quite recently after everything hit the fan. By anon1 on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 02:43 pm: Ron: reference your input, thanks, make sense. Is it an absolute known that the Christain doctrine has never been applied against a first tier subcontractor when an action is initiated in a Federal Forum? Secondly, has anyone experienced the unallownace of a cost when the Prime allowed a cost plus percentage of cost type of contract to occur by an S/C and paid them.(I know-a no-no at the prime level-Tks By joel hoffman on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 03:09 pm: Anon1, if your subcontract has a change order clause, I agree with your unilateral action. You said that the sub won't bilaerally agree to the extension, without a fee increase. You extended the performance period in lieu of terminating. Now, it is up to the sub to make an appeal for or litigate the fee issue, while maintaining performance. happy sails! joel By Eric Ottinger on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 03:11 pm: Anon1, By Ron Vogt on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 03:12 pm: Anon1: As far as I know, no board (in a sponsored claim) or
court has applied the Christian Doctrine to a subcontract. I
can't answer your second question. By Eric Ottinger on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 03:23 pm: Anon1, By anon1 on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 03:24 pm: Thanks to everyone for the input, really appreciated. Yes,their 'consultant' is a problem. Incidentally, we are the prime to the Feds-Have a good week. By joel hoffman on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 04:16 pm: Good luck, Anon1. My comments were intended for you, as the prime. happy sails! joel By anon1 on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 07:36 pm: And thank you Joel, always good to see your comments in this forum. Ron looked at the UCC and makes sense. Seems I got them coming and going and I don't believe in screwing anyone. We didn't cause the delays, the sub has been getting rich before I came on board. Sad-I hope there are some ethics still left in this world. Of course, a new PM might be in the offing-Cheers By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 01:50 pm: This raises an interesting question. Anon1 is obviously the
prime, not government. The prime is having what appears to be
unreasonable difficulty with a sub. The prime's past performance
may suffer while the sub is in the "no privity" category. By joel hoffman on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 07:58 am: In construction, mnay primes are now requiring their larger subs to be bonded. That weeds out some, as the bonding companies perform screening and background checks. Many reputable construction primes also check out references on their potential subcontractors on subcontracts of significance. happy sails! joel By Philip G. on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 09:56 am: I work in procurement for a prime contractor. We routinely
request and evaluate past performance as part of the award
process. We also request bonds on a routine basis - similar to
fed world practice. |