By
anonymous on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 01:30 pm:
This question would pertain to
DOD solicitations during the evaluation phase.
When calling upon cited references to give information on
someone they have done business with, is it appropriate to ask
them the typical past performance survey questions via email?
I looked around before asking this question; I could find no
guidance.
By
Dave Barnett on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 02:17 pm:
I see nothing prohibiting one
from using e-mail as the mode of communication, what is the
particular concern...security? Mail can get lost, misdirected,
etc. Someone could answer the phone and take a message, leave it
on someone's desk where passersby could see it. Faxes can get
picked up by other than the addressee.
Offhand I see nothing wrong with using e-mail, why has this
issue arisen, what am I missing?
By
formerfed on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 03:43 pm:
I've frequently received email
questionnaires to fill out on a given company. I've also seen
lots more. There is nothing inheritantly wrong with this. The
big problem is you have turned a poentially very beneficial
source selection tool into a mechnical, follow the numbers,
process.
Obtaining valuable past performation information is much like
conducting a job interview. The true value is not so much in the
words used for responding, it's the other aspecst of
communications that provide the clues for what the next question
might be. Someone need to listen, digest what's said, think out
a strategy to get at the persons's true thoughts and feelings,
ask the probing questions, and really get at the maet of how
they think the contractor performed. None of this happens with
an email.
By
anon2 on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 06:50 pm:
Formerfed, the same really
applies to regular mail. To get at that real information it is
almost always necessary to conduct a follow-up interview of some
sort. I agree it is valuable to get that extra sense of things.
The main disadvantage of e-mail is the tendency to sit down and
zap something out. Even an old e-mail hand, as I am, will tend
to give more attention to something hard copy that is going into
an envelope.
Even more interesting to me personally is how I will often find
an error on a printed copy of something I've done electronically
with considerable care. That may be a generational thing since I
grew up with and used paper most of my life.
For most things I never go to paper. Before sending by e-mail or
direct computer to FAX I'll run important stuff through spell
check and do an extra screen proofing. For really
important things I still generally print a final and do a proof
read on paper.
I've seen some dashed off examples and they weren't worth the
paper or time we took to send them out. Those say little for the
individual or the agency responding so poorly (One might put
that in a type of past performance file!). For a past
performance I personally would do a paper copy even if I were
eventually sending it by e-mail for those reasons. Personally, I
think past performance, the requesting agency and the companies
(good or bad) deserve the time and care that takes.
By
joel hoffman on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 08:38 am:
Anonymous, in lieu of relying on
a written questionaire, have you ever thought about using a tool
which seems to be obsolete or feared by many Government
evaluators? It's called "the telephone". Or have you considered
combining the e-mail with a follow-up phone interview? I often
call the receiver, as soon as I receive back an e-mail receipt
acknowledgement. That way, I can at least introduce the e-mail
topic to the respondent, which is an effective way to reduce the
chance that the reader will simply ignore the e-mail.
I found oral interview techniques to be much more effective than
written responses. Respondents generally will be honest and say
more in an interview than they do in writing - if they respond
at all. I simply take notes on my questionaire and submit them
back to the rest of the selection board.
Have you ever tried oral interviews? If so, were they useful?
happy sails! joel
By
Dave Barnett on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 10:19 am:
Joel, I agree, the telephone is
what I've used when doing past performance inquiries. It affords
flexibility and you can pick up nuances with the interviewee.
However, I've received questionaires by mail from some DoD
contracting offices, so evidently, some contracting offices feel
written documents are needed (what, they don't trust their
contract specialists/officers to properly document their
phonecons?)
When using the phone, I still have a list of questions/topics to
be addressed so it's fairly easy to annotate the list and
therefore have a phone call record.
Speaking of the mailed questionaires, I received one that was so
extensive and (for me) labor intensive, I round filed the dang
thing. I would therefore advise those who use mailed
questionaires to remember the acronym KISS - Keep It Simple,
Stupid
By
anon2 on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 12:13 pm:
Not only KISS, don't make it
stupid. If you provide check boxes and a comment line you will
likely get checks and little comment. Ask a leading question and
invite a short essay question response.
Q: "Did the company manage start-up staffing effectively?"
A: "Yes"
You've learned they did with little in the way of discrimination
factors to separate offerors. If everybody is "Yes" you really
know very little on this issue.
Q: "How well did the company manage start-up staffing and
overcome initial staffing problems?"
A: You might get "Very well" but you also might get a short
description revealing a company with good policy, real thinking
and management or one blundering about that will be of real
value in making a decision.
By
anonymous on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 12:32 pm:
Thanks to all for your input, it
is most helpful.
However, I dare say most of you were a little hasty in presuming
I am unfamiliar with, or have never used the telephone as an
interviewing technique.
I too agree that the telephone is a most accomodating method of
obtaining the sought after information. However, on a recent
proposal evaluation I had a devil of a time reaching someone by
telephone due to their work situation. This was someone who I
was most eager to obtain an opinion from (as revealed by the
nature of their title as submitted by the offeror). I happened
to be a little anxious about the email method, as I realize it
may reside on one or more servers forever, whereas a phone
conversation may be recorded in a locked up file.
Last anonymous:
Was the fellow you wanted to contact on the move and using a
Personal Digital Assistant that could track e-mail?
By
anon2 on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 01:01 pm:
Ah yes! Those of us proposing
phone interviews are obsolete fossils! We forget that government
phones are no longer a means of communication. They are a means
of "putting off" callers. During my last days in government I
was amazed at how calling someone supposedly the POC was an
adventure into the world of voice black holes! Of course I saw
some of this in my own area. Some people, not engaged in
anything urgent, would simply let voice mail answer all calls.
What was worse, the virtual eliminatin of real secretaries and
phone operators in even fairly large organizations, led to
unanswered calls to the person's organizational phone to inquire
if they still lived -- much less try to stimulate a response.
Call the Division or Department and what? Voice mail again! What
happened to the individual in Congress that was pushing for a
legal requirement that at least organizational phones be
answered by a human?
Here is an amusing little story from a recent experience with a
commercial firm I've done business with for half a decade. The
4464 extension was given me by the corporate President's
assistant as a direct line to the person who can solve this
problem.
"You have been forwarded to a voice mail system. However the
person at this number, 4464, does not subscribe to this service.
Good bye."
Needless to say I am trying to terminate my relationship, but
that itself seems difficult as my messages aren't returned and
phones only give voice mail. One of these days I'll perhaps get
an answer to my snail or e-mail. I'm not holding my breath.
By
Dave Barnett on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 01:14 pm:
Anon2, the questionaire I
received was 23 pages long for Chist sakes! Sorry, but I work
for my agency not that particular DoD contracting office. It
would have taken me a day or two to pull files and interview the
varied COTRs to provide the specifics they were looking for.
I have other priorities/customers that are more important.
By
anonymous on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 02:32 pm:
In reply to Bob Antonio's;
"Was the fellow you wanted to contact on the move and using a
Personal Digital Assistant that could track e-mail?"
I have no idea, but I was hoping he would enter his email and
respond at a time that I was unavailable too. You see, he
resides in Hawaii, and is a college professor.
By
joel hoffman on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 03:44 pm:
Original Anon, you're correct
that I probably concluded that you might not use phone
interviews. Sorry.
I agree with you that using e-mail can be useful when you have
problems reaching someone on the phone. I, as a fossil, would
prefer the oral interview with e-mail as a back-up. Actually,
I'd prefer sending the e-mail questionaire with a request to
confirm when I could call over simply sending the e-mail with a
request to return the e-mail. happy sails! joel
Anyway, I guess your original question was answered. YEP, e-mail
is okay, not formally restricted.
By
anon2 on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 05:26 pm:
Dave, someone that has to make a
23 page past performance questionnaire probably hasn't a clue on
how to prioritize. I'd also guess they had not examined their
own "contractor performance" requirements to distill
discriminators needed to make a judgment. You remember the old
story about the amazing farm hand? The one about the hand that
did any manual job in record time, who broke down on something
like sorting apples to big, medium and small. It was the
decisions that were killing him.
I expect your 23 page people had similar problems. They probably
scored past performance too. I wouldn't be surprised to
see numerics at two decimal places with final spread at one
decimal place. In the end they probably threw a dart at a board.
Can't you see it? They more or less read all 23 pages and
distilled the "scores" to a final range of ±.4 points. Then they
picked a "winner" and went on to further foolishness. Do they
ever wonder why there is no net improvement in contractor
choice? Probably.
I guess I'm just ranting. The lack of thoughtful and effective
procedure just irritates me. It is not as if an R&D program were
needed to find an effective solution either! The subject has
been beaten to death right here and in the old Water Cooler. It
is covered in various publications and advisory sites. Some is
just plain common sense.
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