By rransom
on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 07:50 pm:
I am contemplating an order
against the GSA Federal Supply Schedule to lease several PCs.
The terms of the GSA Schedule's lease agreement clearly state
that the parties understand and agree that they are entering
into a 36-month lease. The terms go on to describe the
conditions for termination. Specifically, a "termination for
convenience" may be done however, the Agency is responsible for
the net present value of the remaining lease payments less the
residual value of the equipment. The termination provision goes
on to state that in the event the Agency does not get sufficient
funding for the lease, then termination may be done without
further payment.
For this particular order, my program office only has sufficient
funds (this year) for the first year of the lease. The program
would like to fund each of the following years as its funds are
made available. Given this condition, I am concerned about
anti-deficiency. Since sufficient funds have not been made
available for obligatoin to cover a termination for convenience,
I feel exposed. Also, I am unclear about the standard that would
be applied to prove the "Agency" does not have sufficient funds
to fund the remaining term of the lease.
Are there any other folks partially funding leases? If so, how
have you resolved the above concerns?
By
formerfed on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 08:08 am:
Unfortunately this is an example
of GSA trying to do too much again. I can see seat mangement
where customer agencies pay a monthly or annual fee for complete
desktop functionality (hardware, software, maintence, support,
etc.). But they shouldn't be putting contracts in place for
lease. This will certainly cause lots of problems in
administering orders. Many people will enter into these leases
only to find they want to cancel as soon as the next model of
hardware comes out. vendors don't want to get stuck with
cancellation so that's why there's a 36 month period.
In response to your question, my interpretation is you need to
have sufficent funds available to cover TfC costs. You don't
necessarily need to obligate the money, but you should have it
on hand.
As opposed to getting into a lease, I would gather data and put
together a brief business case showing the realtive cost of
leasing versus purchase. Let your budget/Comptroller folks know
how much more leasing costs plus the hidden difficulites of
cancelling should something occur (like a program person
deciding in six months they want the latest and greatest).
By
Stan March on
Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 08:28 am:
At SSA we intrepret OMB circular
A-11 to require you to obligate the full 36 months for the lease
otherwise you would have an unfunded liability. This lease is
the same as an installment payment plan
By
formerfed on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 09:00 am:
Stan,
I thought of that too. The difference here is PCs and I don't
think they meet the criteria of A-11. The GSA contract language
for major capital expenditures have different language which
essentially requires full funding.
By
Stan March on
Friday, February 15, 2002 - 09:24 am:
I would agree that since we are
talking about small number of PCs that A-11 may not apply,
likewise the following guidance from A-94 only demonstrates the
concept that you can't use leasing to get around a lack of
funding:
"(a) The leases in question would generally result in
substantial savings to the Government that could not be realized
on a purchase;
(b) The leases are so small or so short-term as to make separate
lease-purchase analysis impractical; and
(c) Leases of different types are scored consistently with the
instructions in Appendices B and C of OMB Circular No. A-11"
By
rransom on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 08:26 pm:
Thanks all for your input. This
is good. Everyone seems to be falling into my camp of concern.
My review of A-94 concluded that it only applies to actions
valued in excess of $1M. Nevertheless, it lays out a good
framework for valuing a lease vs a purchase.
It appears my program office do not understand how other Federal
agencies are doing it, but I'm not. Since they don't have
sufficient funds to purchase the PCs (74 so far, with 500 total
over the next three years) I am getting substantial pressure to
change my mind.
I'm thinking of getting the vender to agree that a statement
from the C.O. that sufficient appropriated funds are not
available to cover the remaining lease term is all that is
needed. I'm not clear in my own mind if that is modifying the
GSA terms and conditions or simply an agreement on how they will
be applied.
More comments are very welcome!
By
formerfed on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 02:16 pm:
Rranson,
This may or may not be a problem, but I can't help but think if
your program office doesn't have enough money to buy PCs which
are rather inexpensive, what are they doing for software. In the
absence of agencywide site licences or a sufficient of licenses
already in place, software funding is often overlooked. In many
cases, program offices think they can install the same indiviual
shrink wrapped packages over and over again on multiple PCs with
paying the software vendor. Often the cost of legitimate
software is greater than the hardware costs.
If funding is a problem and you are worried about cancellation
costs you can't fund, look at seat management. Most of the GSA
seat mangement contracts have a much easier and less financially
painful way to get out at FY end.
By
rransom on
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 07:47 pm:
Thanks Formerfed,
Actually, I'm not letting go of this yet. I've researched the
Principals of Appropriations Law and found, in chapter 6, a
reference to the "Leiter v United States" case. My understanding
of this 1927 case is that a contract for a lease that extends
beyond the period in which appropriated funds are available, is
construed as obligating the the Government beyond its current
year's funding authority.
I'm also thinking that the GSA/FSS contract should include one
of the Termination provisions and those provisions may offer a
measure of protection relative to the ultimate cost (of
termination) not exceeding the funded value of the order. I'm in
the process of locating the actual GSA contract...
Finally, in the true spirit of thinking outside the box, I'm
thinking of funding for twelve months, but also sticking some
additional amount in the order to cover my termination
liability. However, the lease terms prescribe that the
termination for convenience charge will be determined based on
the "stipulated loss value" of the lease unpaid payments less
the fair market value of the product. The vender is unable to
identify the fair market value of the product today, for a
undetermined time in the future. So, I'm kind of at a dead-end
there.
Good discussion...again, thanks!
By
rransom on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 07:54 pm:
One more response to Formerfed,
Yes, we do have a site license for software. Also, based on this
excercise, I'm not so sure that the lease costs will exceed the
purchase price in every instance. My observation is that, taking
into account the net present value of lease payments versus the
purchase price, they are compatible because the vender is able
to offer a steeper unit price discount due to the larger volume
of units being obtained. In other words, we are obtaining a
further "volume" discount that we would not otherwise be able to
obtain (with the funds we currently have on hand).
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