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Understanding the Federal Acquisition Regulation Occurs in Stages | |
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Vern challenges us (in another long thread, which stems from a
debate over whether a certificate of cost or pricing data is
required when the value of a non-exempt contract is initially
expected to exceed $550K, but the subsequent negotiated price is
less than $550K) with the following questions--
These are all good questions. In my opinion, understanding and
interpreting the FAR occurs through stages -- By joel hoffman on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 01:54 pm: Part of the problem is in not knowing the source or background for a FAR topic. I often read the legislation and legislative history, Federal Register, OMB Circulars, etc. to determine the intent and reasoning behind "the words." happy sails! joel By Dave Barnett on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 02:32 pm: Linda, I used to have the same feelings towards FAR Part 25 as you described in your post, that has since been superceded by all the preference changes made to FAR Part 19. Part 15 and the rules regarding certificates of current cost or pricing data really never bothered me, if the award amount (including options) was under the TINA threshold, I never bothered with the certificate issue. That's not to say that I can't see the confusion with the language as it's written, as a matter of fact what is being certified and why? Okay, offeror comes in with a $580,000 FFP proposal, I ask for payroll records, overhead makeups, subkr quotes etc. I get a DCAA audit. During discussions I disallow some overhead dollars pursuant to FAR 31.205 and we cut back some direct labor hours for a final agreed to fixed price of $560,000. I get the certificate and both parties walk away happy with the FFP deal, do I constantly monitor the contractor to ensure that no defective pricing issue arises, get real, nobody does, we're in a relatively low dollar FFP environment and I had a governmental audit. Same scenario only we agree to a price of $540,000, no certificate, but I still relied on that same data provided by the offeror/auditor in developing a negotiation position. That data is only judgemental whereas in the $560,000 scenario, the data I used is now certified as factual. In a firm fixed price environment I see little value added by the TINA requirements. Cost reimbursement is a different story of course. By C Mercy on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 03:38 pm: Actually Joel has hit the nail......when I first started my career a KO i was working for suggested to me that the best way to understand and then interpret the FAR was to learn the underlining reason for the existence of the regs. I have always looked beyond the implementing rules and it has served me better than any other advice I ever got in this business. By formerfed on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 04:00 pm: Linda, By anon on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 05:51 pm: If an otherwise intelligent person requires "working on it
for years and feel like I've just scratched the surface" for
what is to be guidance in spending the public's money something
is wrong with the FAR. English is a complex language with rich
and varied meanings in individual words. One can see that
clearly by comparing the number of words required to explain an
English word in an English dictionary compared to words in most
other languages. Talent is required to plainly state what is
actually meant using plain English. By joel hoffman on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 05:57 pm: I also sometimes forget that DOD (construction, at least)
probably has a different negotiating perspective from non-DOD.
We've always required detailed breakdowns for modifications(with
the usual exceptions), because of contract clauses, independent
from the TINA requirements, so 15.4 has been treated as a
secondary requirement. I think we have separate clauses for
breakdowns of proposals for new work, too but don't have time to
look for them, now. By Charlie Dan on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 06:21 pm: How does one read, interpret and apply the regulations? |