By
Anonymous
on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 10:56 am:
I am in the process of developing
letters to contractors to open discussions on a project I am
currently chairing an evaluation board for. I have researched
FAR, DFAR, AFAR and EFAR and have not been able to determine if
I have the authority to sign as Chairperson, or does the C.O.
have this authority? In looking at FAR Part 15.306(d)(1), it
states "Discussons are tailored to each offeror's proposal, and
SHALL be conducted by the contracting officer with each offeror
within the competitive range". Does this mean the C.O. must sign
the letter notifying the contractors the Government is opening
discussions?
Thanks Much!
By
Vern Edwards on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 11:20 am:
Yes, the contracting officer must
sign the letter. See FAR § 15.303(c), which says, in pertinent
part:
"The contracting officer shall... (2) After receipt of
proposals, control exchanges with offerors in accordance with
15.306[.]"
By
joel hoffman on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 12:56 pm:
Vern, can the Contracting Officer
appoint an authorized negotiator, who could then sign
correspondence using the title: "Authorized Negotiator"? happy
sails! joel
By
techie on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 04:48 pm:
From my viewpoint, one shaped by
being chair of teams and COTR on some fairly large technical
programs, I don't like the idea of a chair directly
communicating with offerors. Even on projects I essentially
shaped and where the CO came to me for contractual brainstorming
I insisted we have exacting coordination. Yes, I
developed most of the questions, I answered most of the
questions, I developed most negotiating positions and I worked
everything through the contracting officer. In some cases I knew
I could get a rubber stamp type approval yet insisted on more.
Why? It is too easy to get wrapped around a horrible axle of not
speaking with one voice. There is another substantial reason.
Nobody, nobody with good sense anyway, will rely on what they
think they are saying as being what the reader will hear in
these situations. That is why anything I wrote at the office for
substantial effect always had a proof reader who had some
understanding of the porblem. If it involved contract matters
the key proof reader was the CO. In general what I wrote in that
area stood and went out. Often it went with slight rewording and
once in a while it got a major revision after I realized what I
thought would be heard was not what I wanted at all because
someone else close to the problem had taken if differently.
No, from both technical and contracting sides I do not like the
idea of a team leader or anyone else playing solo here. By the
way, except for the most routine stuff the CO shop ran their
drafts by me in the same way. Some staff didn't like it at
first, but it quickly was seen as win-win. Things go a whole lot
better with precise and exacting coordination and communication.
It also quickly snuffs all attempts, from government outsiders
to offerors or contractors, to sniff out cracks for exploitation
against the program's best interest.
By
Vern Edwards on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 04:49 pm:
Joel:
I suppose that, absent an agency restriction, the CO can
authorize someone else to sign a letter to offerors or to
actually conduct discussions. It is not unusual, for example, to
have a contract specialist conduct discussions, or sole-source
negotiations. There was at least one GAO decision under the
pre-Rewrite FAR in which it was held that the CO could delegate
the authority to conduct discussions.
Vern
By
joel hoffman on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 08:54 pm:
Anon, your Agency and Army source
selection procedures require that you prepare pre-negotiation
objectives, where you inform the KO what you intend to discuss
with each offeror. .
Because you are with the Corps of Engineers, the AFARS requires
a PNO for source selections (5115.406-1) and EFARS requires that
it be approved prior to discussions. The KO will be aware of and
approve what will be discussed with each offeror. Your KO can
either provide notice (an extra letter) that you are the
authorized negotiator and let you sign letters to the offerors,
or the KO can sign the letters at the same time he/she approves
the PNO. I recommend having the KO sign the notification letters
at the same time as they approve your PNO. If you want
subsequent authority to communicate in writing and the KO
agrees, include such authority in the KO's initial letters,
notifiying the offerors of discussions. Kills two birds with one
stone.
As to whether or not it is smart to allow an authorized
negotiator to sign letters, there are arguments both ways. As
far as I'm concerned, if you are conducting the negotiations and
are experienced and fully qualified, why not? The other
anonymous made a valid good point that it is sometimes good to
have someone else's viewpoint before sending critical letters
out. I personally think that is overdone. Contracting personnel
in a couple of the largest construction companies in America,
whom I dealt with over the last four years, couldn't send
ANYTHING of substance out, without corporate review and
approval. They looked like complete idiots to us and were slow
and unresponsive. happy sails! joel
By
joel hoffman on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 08:56 pm:
Sorry "techie", that I referred
to you as "the other anonymous". I couldn't read your post,
after I had previewed mine. happy sails! joel
By
joel hoffman on Monday, July 01, 2002 - 10:23 pm:
Thanks, Vern. happy sails! joel
By
techie on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 10:07 am:
Joel, I agree the example of your
people who had to go through corporate is overdone. I do not
think what I suggested is comparable. That CO was part of a
small team of key people and coordination never took more than a
few hours. If the CO was out for some reason there was a
contract specialist familiar with the issues in the office. The
program has other problems that will not be fixed by good
coordination if one has to go through a complex chain of people
simply adding initials.
I disagree that it "is sometimes good to have someone else's
viewpoint before sending critical letters out" and maintain it
is always good and even necessary. In a routine memo it is good.
For a matter of substance it is necessary. I have seen too many
cases of real trouble, taking considerable amounts of time and
even money to clear, caused by misunderstandings that would
probably have been avoided with an informed proofreader at the
start.
Blunders are usually obvious and may result in a clarifying call
from the reader. Cases in which the writer and reader both see
different clarity can be disaster. That is why when I had the
final say in matters I still ran such correspondence through
another viewpoint. It falls into that category of things where
it costs a penny now and a dollar later if not done.
That leads to another problem now prevalent. People are
increasingly entering fields requiring language skills without
those skills. Even the best writer makes punctuation and
grammatical mistakes. I am not thinking of that at all. I am
thinking of words absolutely misused. We see homonyms and even
non words used here with fair frequency. Simply read Wifcon
posts to verify that.
Contracting depends on mutual understanding of written
agreements. Understanding what the message may be involves
running through possible matches and one is never certain. If
both reader and writer are poorly skilled results are
unpredictable. More eyes may not necessarily be better under
these circumstances, but there is an increased chance of
catching mistakes with a knowledgeable proofreader.
By
Vern Edwards on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 10:35 am:
I agree with techie. I believe
further that source selection clarifications, communications,
and discussions should be closely and strictly controlled by the
contracting officer.
The rules about exchanges of information during source selection
are complex. FAR § 15.306 is unclear in many ways and, in any
event, cannot be understood without extensive knowledge of GAO
case law. Moreover, the GAO and the U.S. Court of Federal
Claims, both of which have protest jurisdiction, do not agree on
all points.
It is for these reasons that it is best for one person to
control exchanges between the government and offerors during
source selection, whether written or oral, and I think that
person should be the contracting officer.
I do not think that the contracting officer should necessarily
be the only person to speak during face-to-face or other oral
discussions. But I do think that the contracting officer should
maintain control over the proceedings.
I also think that for the sake of control, all written
communications between the government and the offerors during
source selection should be signed by the contracting officer.
By
joel hoffman on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 12:11 pm:
I don't necessarily disagree with
your last statement, Vern. I always had the KO sign
correspondence, so they were up to speed.
However, a COE Contracting Officer in a larger District has
100-200 open contracts, perhaps 3 or 4 on-going source
selections at any time, 3 or 4 sole source negotiations
on-going, plus their other Contracting Division duties,
including supervising the CT workforce. Contracts involve
services, JOC, construction, etc. They don't have time to be
conducting all the negotiations and discussions. We have
professional negotiators, who've been doing this for years, to
assist the KO or to separately handle negotiations and
discussions. You don't have to be a KO with an unlimited warrant
to negotiate contracts. The KO is in charge, but would become a
maniac, if they had to lead every discussion or negotiation. We
have negotiated and awarded sole source and source selection
method contracts for years this way, without many problems.
Now, that is from the perspective of contracting for 1-80
million dollar projects for the Army Corps of Engineers, not R&D
or huge weapons contracts, systems contracts, etc. For a formal
source selection, I would agree with the level of KO involvement
and control you are speaking of. happy sails! joel
By
techie on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 01:52 pm:
My earlier post is a case on
point about proofing. I don't have the luxury of any proofreader
now. The comment "Understanding what the message may be involves
running through possible matches and one is never certain" is
out of place. What did I mean to say? "I am thinking of words
absolutely misused. We see homonyms and even non words used here
with fair frequency. Understanding what the message may be
involves running through possible matches and one is never
certain."
The selection period is one full of danger from
misunderstanding. People are almost always new or in a new
combination even if the agency and company are long term
associates. Misunderstandings due to these mistakes are much
less likely once a contractor has been selected and everyone is
past the starting phase. We do learn and account for style and a
common usage develops.
I can understand, to some extent, Joel's apparent point about
using proven professional negotiators to handle the details of
fairly standard and routine construction contracts. I think the
situation of a COE Contracting Officer having "100-200 open
contracts, perhaps
3 or 4 on-going source selections at any time, 3 or 4 sole
source negotiations on-going, plus their other Contracting
Division duties, including supervising the CT workforce"
describes a different problem (I do consider it a
problem) entirely.
Vern mentions "control." At this stage there are really several
controlling authorities. Technical management may actually
control the specification, despite it being in the contracting
officer's hands for the solicitation. The contracting officer is
in control of the agency's dealings with potential contractors.
Other powers in an agency may exercise control by telling the
contracting officer the whole thing is off. In one case I've
seen a contracting officer abruptly reassigned for failure to
understand other authorities. There are always others in the
game. All of this can collapse into shambles if there is not
tight coordination and cooperation. This is absolutely necessary
in most developmental work.
I think the supposedly less complex fields are missing something
vital if they dismiss the need for similar procedure. I do not
see the issue nearly so much as control as in making sure
the team is in agreement and understanding before it goes
public. At critical stages with policy nothing will create as
much havoc as outsiders, in and outside the agency, hearing and
reading different things from the core team. The process I
describe is as valuable for building and maintaining internal
understanding as it is in preventing external misunderstanding.
Once it has been in place long enough one finds even
uncontrolled communication tends to be surprisingly self
controlled.
By
formerfed on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 01:53 pm:
Joel,
I've got a couple of comments on your last post. These aren't
directed to COE but the government in general. First, there
aren't enough CO's (individuals with warrants). I'm a firm
beliver in giving a warrant to everyone that demonstrates sound
thinking and exercise of good judgment. There are too many
reasons not too. Just because someone is a supervisor or manager
is not a valid reason. Second, there are too many COs' (or
Contract Specialists or negotiators) that lack training and
experience to effectively maintain control of proceedings. Some
of these lack the necessary skills to lead discussions or
technical understanding of the subject of the procurement.
Grooming people to do this job is essential. It's too bad the
formal training doesn't include more of the "soft" skills.
By
Vern Edwards on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 05:18 pm:
We need to get clear about
contracting officer responsibility.
First, we must distinguish between simple price negotiations in
non-competitive procurements and negotiations/discussions in
source selection. There are few rules for the conduct of
non-competitive price negotiations. However, such negotiations
are more than a matter of bargaining skill. The government's
negotiator must understand many rules, such as the rules about
the submission and certification of cost or pricing data and
about the difference between cost or pricing data and other
pricing information, the rules about the application and
interpretation of the cost principles and the cost accounting
standards, and rules about the proper application and
interpretation of prescribed contract clauses.
Second, in competitive negotiations there are additional rules
about what must and what must not be said during discussions.
Those rules have been the subject of hundreds, maybe even
thousands, of protest decisions. They are not intuitive and they
cannot be learned by merely reading the words in FAR Subpart
15.3.
Contracting officers are expected to know and apply the rules
properly. The FAR puts this responsibility squarely on the
shoulders of the contracting officer, and no one else.
See FAR § 1.602-1(b):
"No contract shall be entered into unless the contracting
officer ensures that all requirements of law, executive
orders, regulations, and all other applicable procedures,
including clearances and approvals, have been met."
And FAR 15.303(c):
"The contracting officer shall: (2) After receipt of
proposals, control exchanges with offerors in
accordance with 15.306[.]"
And FAR § 15.306(d)(1):
"Discussions are tailored to each offeror's proposal, and must
be conducted by the contracting officer with each offeror
within the competitive range."
And FAR § 15.405(a):
"[T]he contracting officer is responsible for exercising
the requisite judgment needed to reach a negotiated settlement
with the offeror and is solely responsible for the final
price agreement."
Underlining and italics added.
Practical circumstances may require the contracting officer to
delegate some tasks to others, but delegation is all that it is,
and it is of performance, not of responsibility. When it comes
to getting the contract right, the contracting officer is
responsible, not "technical management," and not the "team."
Techie, control is the right term.
By
techie on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 09:30 am:
Vern,
Within the scope of the contracting officer's responsibility you
have no argument. That is why I would tend to be opposed to the
forms of communications that apparently are being considered
here and sometimes in use.
I think you misunderstand my position. I think you well know
that working level contracting officers do not have the final
word on any number of matters related to a contract under
consideration or even after award. The contracting officer is
most certainly a part of a team. Contracting officers do have
specific responsibility by law and regulation for a specific
part of the total acquisition effort. They do not work in a
vacuum and in fact are only one key part of the acquisition.
Their actions, within their responsibility, are controlled by
others.
Contracting officers can be directed to withdraw the
solicitation. Senior technical management in the sponsoring
organization can most certainly modify technical requirements,
even (often unfortunately) during the solicitation. The
contracting officer is duty bound to point out the pitfalls and
costs of such changes, but woe to one standing against the
agency's senior technical management when the requirement has
changed. Amended technical requirements will be in the
solicitation or perhaps there will be no solicitation and no
contracting officer.
A contracting officer may be directed to terminate a contract or
contracts for convenience when the agency's technical management
is convinced the direction has gone wrong. The contracting
officer must warn of and usually clean up the contractual
consequences, but cannot stop those directions. Contracting
officers often get new orders and have to find a way within law
and regulation to deal with those orders. Look at the Army's
Crusader for a very high profile case way, way above the
contracting shop's head.
Within individual authority control is often the issue. I don't
believe control is the most critical part of the need for
coordination. Yes, the contracting officer must control
those functions allotted to contracting officers by law and
regulation. Financial officers must control those
functions allotted to financial officers. Technical management
must control the technical requirement. The point of
coordination between those controlling groups is insure they
sing from the same sheet of music within and without the agency
during acquisitions. When they are not coordinating and on the
same sheet you have an acquisition now in or headed for trouble.
Some of the generally unfortunate results mentioned in the third
paragraph become increasingly probable.
As an aside, there was a misconception of the IPT along these
lines. Some argued the team assumed the individual
responsibilities of the component specialties. No, contracts was
responsible for contracts, legal for legal, technical for
technical, and so on. Agencies mistaking an individual
cooperative and parallel authority system, working within an IPT
for efficiency, for a collective assumption of individual
authorities often ran into trouble. Conversely, some contracting
officers do not seem much aware of the larger issues that will
drive their working lives. They are so FAR focused they do not
recognize all those things (some you mentioned) beyond the FAR
that fall within or influence what will be their responsibility.
By
Vern Edwards on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 11:19 am:
techie:
I agree with you about the need for proper ahd effective
coordination among persons with differing responsibilities. I
also agree that contracting officers are under the control of
their superiors and must work collegially with persons in other
functions. Their authority is not absolute. Your points about
misconceptions about the IPT concept and the narrow focus of
some contracting officers are well made.
My main concern is that people recognize the complexity of the
contracting function and the need for specialized knowledge in a
business in which rules matter and in which the rules are often
subtle and complex.
By
Kennedy How on
Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 12:35 pm:
On the other hand, I, as a
Contract Specialist, should be able to hand the Contracting
Officer a procurement package that he could sign blindly without
fear of going to jail over missing something. I should be making
sure everything is there, and function like a Contracting
Officer except in name only. All the KO should have to do is
sign.
Yes, the KO is ultimately responsible. He has to ensure
everything is in order before proceeding. It is MY
responsibility that all those things are done, so when the KO
reviews the package, he can sign off, and we can proceed to the
next step.
He has the responsibility, yes, but we do the grunt work.
My point is this: If I do all of the things required, and I show
aptitude and good business judgement, I can get a Warrant. I am
not really different than I was before I got the Warrant,
because I already know what I need to know to BE a KO.
Kennedy
By
Vern Edwards on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 02:24 pm:
Kennedy:
"Sign blindly"? You don't mean that literally. Do you?
And you are different after you get the warrant -- you are
responsible.
Vern
By
techie on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 04:04 pm:
Vern,
I knew we were not really too different in view. Contracting
officers do not get quite the respect I think they are due. Many
in my area, science and technology, think of them as jumped up
clerical people. Top government management, particularly in
highly technical areas, too often has this view.
Part of the problem may be due to lack of exposure to high level
contracting officers, particularly in smaller agencies. Many
there think of the person processing purchase orders as a
contracting officer. I once had the opportunity to watch a
senior official of a small to medium sized field organization
assume "she is just clerical" only to find she outranked and out
degreed him. He was in an unfortunate situation since he really
did need some help from her and had immediately acted on his
assumption. She was very gracious.
By
Kennedy How on
Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:23 pm:
Vern,
No, not in the literal sense. But, I guess my point is, why
should I introduce, or leave out, stuff just so a Contracting
Officer has something to do? I should strive to have "the
perfect file" to hand to the KO, so when he does review it,
everything should be there. There should be nothing missing, the
file should not be coming back to me for something that is
wrong.
Yes, there is the differences of being responsible. I am also
responsible if I do something to send a KO to jail. The KO may
be the one that takes the hit, but the contract specialist who
sent the KO there bears just as much responsibility for his/her
inactions. You can say the KO shouldn't have done whatever it
was to send them to jail, but I counter that if a KO has to
second-guess and constantly check over a contract specialist's
work for errors and omissions that will get the KO into trouble,
then the contract specialist isn't doing his/her job.
Kennedy
By
Vern Edwards on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:35 pm:
Kennedy:
"I am also responsible if I do something to send a KO to jail.
The KO may be the one that takes the hit, but the contract
specialist who sent the KO there bears just as much
responsibility for his/her inactions."
I'm smiling as I write this -- I'm sure that what you say will
be a comfort to the KO. That and a nice cake.
Vern
By
Anonymous8 on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 01:10 pm:
Vern,
I think that the viewpoint expressed by Kennedy makes him sound
very professional, someone any KO would want to have working for
her. I smiled when I read his post, but for a different reason
-it is so nice to hear someone who cares about/takes pride in
the job.
Yeah, the KO is accountable, but with Contract Specialists like
Kennedy who take responsibility for managing the procurement,
the job is a lot easier.
By
Vern Edwards on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 01:44 pm:
Anon8:
I agree with you.
Vern
By
techie on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 02:38 pm:
This latest discussion
illustrates why someone who is supported by subordinates yet
bears final responsibility needs the authority to discipline,
select or deselect those subordinates.
That was the theory behind the ship's captain and authority. The
captain is responsible, even if it was the junior third officer
who ran the ship into the rocks. Thus the captain has vast
authority. Evidence indicates that responsibility-authority
relationship has weakened at sea. It certainly has elsewhere. Is
that why we see so much that just does not work as expected?
By
Anon2 on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 07:03 am:
To techie, Anon8 and Kennedy,
-- and then you could put the shoe on the other foot and have
the conscientious Contract Specialist and the KO that doesn't
care. That is what it is like where I work.
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