By Anonymous
on Friday, November 24, 2000 - 05:34 pm:
This is one of those questions
you feel you should know the answer to. Can anyone point to a
well constructed study that answers the question, how much can
be saved by competing?
By
Anonymous2 on Friday, November 24, 2000 - 05:52 pm:
I do not know of any
"well-constructed" study that answers the question that you have
asked, "How much can be saved by competing," if what you are
looking for is an average dollar amount or average savings
percentage.
In economic theory, the "value of competition" lies in the
promotion of efficiency in the allocation of economic resources:
"As economists now know, an economy driven by perfect
competition leads to an efficient level of allocation of inputs
and outputs." Paul Samuelson and William D. Nordhaus,
Economics, 12th ed. (1985). p. 46.
In theory, perfect competition would eliminate profit. Imperfect
competition, which is what we really have, leads to
inefficiencies in the allocation of economic resources, which is
what makes profit possible. As Samuelson and Nordhaus put it,
"When sellers are few, there are inadequate checks and balances
to assure that price is determined by costs."
Government acquisition policy is based on the idea that
competition keeps the price of a good or service close to the
efficient cost of its production. It is based on the expectation
that nobody can charge too much if somebody else is able and
willing to charge less.
By
joel hoffman on Friday, November 24, 2000 - 11:27 pm:
folks, I don't know of any study.
I just know from experience. A great amount is saved - millions
on multimillion dollar construction acquisitions, for
example.... Happy Sails!
By
Anonymous2 on Saturday, November 25, 2000 - 01:47 am:
It's helpful to make a
distinction between competition as a marketplace condition and
competition as a contracting procedure.
In the marketplace there is competition whenever there is
rivalry among businesses for customers or markets. This kind of
competition is at work even though buyers do not formally
solicit competitive offers. It is at work when you go to buy a
car even if you visit only one dealer.
In government procurement, competition is a procedure in which
an agency solicits competitive offers. If the government
solicits competitive offers it calls the procurement competitive
even if only one firm submitted an offer.
In theory, a competitive procurement saves money, but it often
unclear how much it saved in any given instance. Although it is
often possible to prove savings in particular cases in which
there is a purchase history, it is harder to prove significant
marketwide savings when all market transactions and transaction
costs are taken into account. It undoubtedly saves money in
commodity buys, but many procurements are unique, one-time
events, and it may be hard to determine how much money, if any,
was saved in a particular competitive award process.
In most sole source procurements the parties negotiate, and if
the agency's negotiator is astute the price he pays may be no
higher than the price that he would have obtained through
solicitation of competitive offers. If the price is higher it
may be because it is more realistic and will produce less
opportunistic behavior and conflict during performance.
Moreover, it costs money to conduct a competitive procurement,
and this cost, whatever it may be, large or small, offsets the
savings obtained from competition to some degree. We have plenty
of evidence of the fact that government competitive procurements
are often time-consuming and costly.
Another complication arises from the fact that more than
one-half of annual contract obligations are for services. When
buying services the government does not buy a well-defined
product with quality attributes that are fully measurable ex
ante. Offerors' promises about service quality may be
complex, fuzzy, and difficult to verify. This makes it
especially hard to make reliable claims about the savings
obtained through competitive procurement, especially when the
services were procured on a "best value" basis.
I am not saying that competitive procurement does not save the
taxpayer any money, but we must be careful about making large
claims in that regard on a marketwide basis. It may be that if a
market segment is competitive and the buyer researches and
negotiates effectively, she may do as well or better than she
would have through a FAR Part 15 Source Selection.
There is no question that competitive markets are good. But the
government's competitive procedures are a mixed bag. I know that
competition is gospel in government contracting, and I'm talking
blasphemy.
By
joel hoffman
on Sunday, November 26, 2000 - 11:59 am:
Anonymous2, you aren't talking
blasphemy. You are correct that the Government's procedures
don't necessarily produce the biggest bang for the bucks. We all
must remember that the "Competition in Contracting Act" has more
than one purpose. Perhaps the major purpose is to allow each of
Senator Joe Blow's constituents to compete for a piece of
Federal business, not to produce the most savings to the
taxpayers. The entire process involves a multitude of
compromises. Happy Sails! joel
By
bob antonio on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 03:15 pm:
I can think of three goals of
governments' competitive procedures. This covers state, local,
and federal contracts.
First, competition provides opportunities for all citizens of a
government. Any capable citizen should have a shot at it.
Second, competition helps avoid improper relationships between
contractor and government.
Third and most important, competition can provide new ideas and
competitive commercial practices to governments.
By
Anonymous
on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 09:02 pm:
Mr. Antonio:
Interesting. Are those the reasons that Congress articulated
when it enacted CICA? Can you provide me with references?
By
bob antonio on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 06:02 am:
Anonymous:
The second item I gave is derived from an 1829 Attorney General
decision in Volume 2 of those opinions. CICA's legislative
history stretched from around 1977 to 1984. Somewhere in that
mass of data you can probably find something close to the items
I have posted. However, the items I posted are from my own ideas
of the benefits of competition for all government organizations.
By
bob antonio on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 07:40 am:
Anonymous:
On the way to work this morning I was reading a court case and
found the following.
"The first purpose enumerated by the district court--protecting
the public from cronyism and collusion--is much too narrow.
Competitive bid statutes are designed to protect against a
variety of ills that might befall the government procurement
process: sloth, lack of imagination or carelessness on the part
of those who award public contracts; inadequate notice to
potential bidders, causing contracting officers to act on the
basis of ignorance or misinformation; and, perhaps most
important of all, insufficient competition to assure that the
government gets the most work for the least money."
Everyone has their own ideas. You can find the item at 813 F. 2d
922 @ p. 926.
By
joel hoffman
on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 08:33 am:
That judge lived or lives in a
pipe dream! He or she never obviously never directly worked with
the Federal Acquisition system. When I got out of the Air Force,
during the 1970's, I went ot work for a municipality and bid out
all City work. I found our prices to be approximately 50-65% of
those for the same work in the Air Force. Since I was the same
designer, and the differences between the geographical regions
were not a significant factor, I attribute the savings to the
differences in the procurement systems.
We once combine HUD funded work with local funded work in the
same contract, using two different bid schedules and two
separate sets of contract clauses and conditions. We paid 100%
higher unit prices for the HUD funded work - on the opposite
side of the same street! Happy Sails! Joel
By
bob antonio on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 08:44 am:
Joel:
You are right. All the little and large things we ask for in our
clauses come with a price. Contractors have to try and figure
out if they are complying and and they must report on the
compliance. The court case you identified and I posted from the
Chicagoland area shows that our programs cost money. Some
programs are worth the cost. Others may not be. However, they
all add some cost.
By
Eric Ottinger
on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 06:21 pm:
Anon,
This is kind of a rough answer. Back in the 80s, the management
of DoD current at that time was very much in favor of
dual-sourcing weapons systems.
Going in, I was very skeptical. Leader/follower arrangements are
notorious for creating problems.
Also, the political appointees who were pushing this approach
cited studies showing 10% cost reductions after a second source
was brought in to compete with the original sole source. Since
the Government could have had the same 10% reduction by sticking
with a single source and letting the learning curve do its usual
magic, I thought the argument was idiotic.
Given the up front costs and the reduced learning curve benefit
that results when you cut quantities in half, I’m not sure that
we came out ahead on any of these programs.
(Of course, with the end of the Cold War we went back to a
single source for most of these systems.)
But we got some interesting feedback from our contractor
counterparts. The concerted effort to rethink production
processes to be competitive for a dual source item, invariably
had good effects that went beyond the instant contract or that
single system. Invariably, the entire plant became more
productive and all of the products produced by that plant
benefited from the improved production processes.
Looking at the big picture, we did come out ahead.
Eric
By
Anonymous2 on Friday, December 01, 2000 - 09:46 am:
Eric's story about dual sourcing
is interesting and is supported by some analysts. See
Affording Defense by Jacques S. Gansler (1989: The MIT
Press), pp. 185-188. Perhaps the most famous example of dual
sourcing is the "Great Engine War" competition initiated by the
Air Force between Pratt & Whitney and GE.
But others have pointed out that dual sourcing has resulted in
higher overall costs to the government. See "Findings and
Thoughts About Competition in the Procurement of Weapon
Systems," by Michael N. Beltramo, in the Journal of Cost
Analysis, Vol. 4, No. 2 (Fall 1986).
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