By
joel hoffman on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 10:33 am:
I just returned from a an
interesting class on Earned Value Management Systems.
A classic case involving cost overruns and coverups was the
McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Corporation - General Dynamics Corp
JV for the Navy's A-12 "Stealth Fighter." The Navy desperately
wanted their own "stealth" fighter - the Air Force had both a
fighter and a bomber.
I believe the contract was a FPI type contract, awarded in
January 1988. Target Price was about 4.1 Billion with a max
Gov't liability of $4.8 Billion.
Basically, somebody "cooked the books" on cost performance
report information in early 1990, which would have indicated
estimates at completion reflecting large overruns in both cost
and time.
A Government analyst from OSD independently analyzed and
predicted overruns of 1.2 billion and 1 year slip. His report to
Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisitions, John Betti, a high
level OSD official was not revealed to Secretary of Defense,
Dick Chaney, the next day (April 5, 1990, in a final Major
Aircraft Review briefing on the A-12. Instead, Chaney was told
that the program was on cost and schedule.
Chaney then briefed Congress, in a briefing three weeks later
(April 26, 1990), that the program was on time and on schedule
and recommended that the program be funded.
Eight days later (May 4, 1990), the Contractors suddenly
reported new delays, probable cost increases, business problems
to the A-12 program office.
On May 31, 1990, the Navy exercised the contract option for the
first 6 production aircraft at a ceiling price of $1.2 billion.
June 1, 1990 - ONE DAY LATER - the program office informed the
Sec. of the Navy of the cost/schedule problems. He informs
Chaney. Chaney orders DOD and Navy Investigation.
In November 1990, the investigations reveal wide-ranging A-12
problems had not been reported to the Navy and Pentagon leaders.
Navy fired, reprimands, censures and admonishes all who knew "
but didn't tell."
Congress held hearings in December 1990 and Chaney told the Navy
to "show cause" why the A-12 program.
Chaney rejected Navy proposals to restructure the program and
cancelled it on January 7, 1990 (on January 8, John Betti
resigned).
We learned that cancellation of this program dramatically
increased overhead costs allocated to the Government's other
contracts with these firms - massive overheads/G&A allocations
to this program had to be absorbed by the other contracts. It
took years for the firms to unload the unabsorbed overhead
expenses.
As it turns out, the predicted cost/time overruns on the A-12
program actually turned out to be within the range of a 30 year
historical average for non-FFP contracts of various types. I
lost my notes concerning the numbers but they were somewhere in
the range of 0.60- 0.65 cost performance indices (67% - 54% cost
growth)!
What a study in coverups! Happy Sails! Joel
By
joel hoffman on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 10:39 am:
Clarification - the title of this
thread said "cost contracts". The contract in question was a
form of FPI (I believe FPI - it had a cost ceiling and a cost
share ratio) but the typical overruns apply to cost reimbursible,
as well as CPI type contracts, in general. Happy Sails! Joel
By
bob antonio on
Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 11:22 am:
Joel:
I think this may have been the procurement in which the
contractor took DCAA to court for calling this a FP contract
when someone wrote "best efforts" into the contract. I am not
sure anymore but DCAA took a hit for $25 million. I never looked
to see if the government appealed.
By
bob antonio on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 11:33 am:
Joel:
I may also be confusing the A-10 with the A-12.
By
Vern Edwards
on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 12:20 pm:
Joel:
You may find the following quote interesting. It is from the
preface to Cost/Schedule Control Systems Criteria: The
Management Guide to C/SCSC, Rev. Ed., by Quentin W. Fleming
(Chicago: Probus Publishing Co., 1992), p. ix:
"On January 7, Secretary of Defense Richard Chaney canceled the
A-12 program. To those of us interested in earned value
performance this was quite an event. The good news was that C/SCSC
compliant management control systems at both prime contractors
were working well. The bad news was that the most senior
management on the A-12 program would appear not to have been
utilizing the C/SCSC data.
C/SCSC as an 'early warning' system worked. But one must look at
the data, and believe in the data, in order for the process to
work."
By
bob antonio on
Monday, December 04, 2000 - 03:52 pm:
Joel:
Did you talk about this report at your course?
http://www.btc.suu.edu/business/fac/christensend/beacha-1.pdf
If the 28 page .pdf file does not pop up when you go to the
site, just reload it again.
By
Ron Vogt on
Monday, December 04, 2000 - 04:05 pm:
There seems to be some confusion
over the A-12 contract and General Dynamics' fight over a
defective audit. Although I wasn't involved, this is what I
remember:
To the best of my recollection, the $25 million DCAA hit was for
neither the A-10 nor the A-12. It was for the Division Artillery
contract, or Divad.
General Dynamics was subjected to extensive audits and a
criminal investigation over the Divad contract, primarily
because of the auditors' failure to understand the difference
between a FP contract and a "best efforts" contract. Although GD
eventually was cleared, it ran up several million dollars in
legal bills. It filed a claim to recover these, but lost. It
then tried suing in civilian court for a negligent audit. It won
a $25 million judgment, but the award was later overturned for
reasons unrelated to the quality of the audit.
I don't know where the case stands now.
By
Eric Ottinger
on Monday, December 04, 2000 - 04:12 pm:
All,
In the subsequent litigation, there has been quite a bit of
controversy over the question of whether the Secretary of
Defense “cancelled” the program or “terminated” the program. The
Secretary was not the Contracting Officer and the Secretary did
not have the authority to “terminate” the contract for default.
Only the Contracting Officer could terminate the contract for
default, and the Contracting Officer would have to make this
decision using his/her independent judgement.
This is one occasion where higher management might have saved
the taxpayers some major grief if he had taken counsel from an
experienced contracting officer, and been more careful to think
through the correct procedures.
Note that I am not expressing an opinion on the correctness of
the legal arguments one way or another. I am only commenting
that this issue could have been avoided if the Contracting
Officer and other contracting experts had had more input.
From the accounts that I have read, the low level employees who
were expected to read and interpret the data were doing exactly
what they were supposed to do. It isn’t that the higher levels
weren’t reading the data. They were willing to “shoot the
messenger” when the numbers weren’t what they wanted the numbers
to be.
For whatever it is worth, the A-12 was a bomber rather than a
fighter.
Eric
By
bob antonio on Monday, December 04, 2000 - 04:18 pm:
Ron:
I seem to remember the Court case taking place in southern
California. I copied the case a few years back but may have
thrown it out.
Eric:
If it was the DIVAD, then it was Weinberger right after the 60
minutes show. Do you remember seeing the little test on national
TV?
By
Eric Ottinger
on Monday, December 04, 2000 - 04:38 pm:
Bob,
No. I am talking about the A-12 and Cheney.
In view of the recent Supreme Court decision, Vern should double
check the spelling for our Vice President (almost) elect.
I recently read that the interest on the amount being litigated
in the A-12 case was running something like $300,000 a day.
Ouch.
I thought Cheney was a heck of a good manager. But it would have
been better if the A-12 had been wrapped up in a way that didn't
leave room for prolonged litigation.
Eric
By
bob antonio on
Monday, December 04, 2000 - 09:30 pm:
Ron:
You are right. I actually found the case in my home office. It
was decided on March 25, 1996 in the U. S. District Court for
the Central District of California. It was the Divisional Air
Defense Gun System (DIVAD). I remember reading it and it was
certainly brutal on DCAA.
By
joel hoffman on Monday, December 04, 2000 - 09:56 pm:
Thanks for the report, Bob. No we
didn't have time to review it, as this was a two-day executive
overview of EVMS. We talked about it for about 15-20 minutes,
while covering management controls, oversight, etc. We were
provided some handouts with EAC predictions and timeline
summaries of events, etc. The report you linked to pretty well
jives with what we were told, except that the SECDEF might have
been told about some cost and schedule concerns. But it appears
that the concerns were poohpoohed by the briefers. Happy Sails!
By
John Ford on
Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 01:06 pm:
To all, the District Court's
decision in the DIVAD case was overturned by the 9th Cir. There
are no further court proceedings in that case. However, the
ASBCA case is proceeding. The board has issued one decision
holding that FFP contracts cannot be covered by GD's claim for
its litigation costs. The issue is whether GD can recover its
costs relating to the investigations although it has established
final overhead rates for the years in question and has insurance
to cover part of its costs. GD has not filed a claim under its
insurance policies although the costs of the premiums were
charged to government contracts.
As regards the A-12, the contracting officer did terminate the
contract for default. Chaney terminated the program. This case
is on-going and is back before the Court of Federal Claims after
the original COFC decision was reversed by the Federal Circuit.
Hopefully, the litigation over the election in Florida does not
go on as long as these two matters have.
By
bob antonio on Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 02:14 pm:
Thanks John:
I guess it is on to the 9th Circuit to find out why. The judge
in the District Court was downright abusive towards DCAA.
By
Kennedy How on
Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 12:17 pm:
I have a claim that's 10-11 years
old right now. I've never gotten a good handle on what the
actual dollars are now, but originally, the claims were for
about $60M, but there were some other CLINs involved at $32M
apiece.
Last I heard, it's at the CoFC; the ASBCA decision left one hole
open for them to go there.
Regarding decisions from up high, I've seen and heard of some
interesting decrees coming back to us when we send stuff up that
way for blessing. If SecDef Cheney came to me and said find a
way to T4D, I'd probably find a way. And, some legal type would
concur on what I was able to find out.
Kennedy
By
John Ford on
Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 02:57 pm:
Bob, the 9th Cir. held that the
cause of GD's costs was not a flawed DCAA audit, but the
exercise of prosecutorial discretion by DoJ. As such, the cause
of GD's harm fell within the discretionary function exception to
the Federal Tort Claims Act under which GD brought its suit. As
an aside, it should be noted that the GAO also considered the
DIVAD contract to be FFP and did not pick up on the significance
of the best efforts language.
As regards the earlier comment regarding SECDEF's authority to
terminate a contract, the Secretary is the ultimate contracting
officer in DoD. By virtue of his position, the Secretary has the
powe to perform all contracting functions.
By
bob antonio on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 03:13 pm:
John:
Few, if any, non-contracting people would understand the problem
with FFP and "best efforts" in the same breath. GAO and the
Department of Justice are no exceptions since they typically are
not versed in federal contracting. As contract pricing auditors,
DCAA should have caught it.
From "prosecutorial discretion," I assume that means the Justice
Department lawyers should have known it was effectively a cost
contract and not treated it as a FFP contract. Is that it? Do
you have a citation for the case?
By
Ron Vogt on
Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 06:38 pm:
Bob,
John was referring to the 'discretionary function' exception to
the Federal Tort Claims Act, not prosecutorial discretion. Under
the FTCA, the government is not liable for tort claims based on
actions that were within the government's discretionary
functions, e.g., investigations. Effectively, this is an
immunity from a lawsuit.
However, it is not quite correct to say that the cause of GD's
harm was not the flawed audit. It was, but GD has no redress
through the FTCA.
By
bob antonio on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 07:08 pm:
Ron or John:
Do you have a case number?
By
John Ford on
Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 11:18 pm:
Bob, the docket number for the
9th Cir. was 96-55821. This is a reported case but I don't have
the citation for it. The case was decided in March 98.
The gist of what the court held was that the decision to
investigate and prosecute was a matter within the discretion of
the prosecutors. Because of that discretion, the government was
immune from suit under the FTCA. This was not a contract suit.
The contract matter is in litigation before the ASBCA. The claim
was filed against the Navy because the Navy administered
contracts at GD Pamona when the indictment occurred.
By
bob antonio on Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 06:02 am:
John:
Thanks. Here it is.
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/
04485f8dcbd4e1ea882569520074e698/2659e4ae0f8ffece88256958006e99c4?OpenDocument
By
bob antonio on Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 07:58 am:
John:
That was interesting. The dissenting judge also said that the
claim was not timely.
Here is the section that exempted the prosecutors.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/2680.html
By
Anonymous
on Friday, December 08, 2000 - 09:23 am:
If the new Sec Def leaves it to
the courts will you rip her the way you did Dick Cheney? Are you
the same Eric Ottinger who wrote, "I thought Cheney was a heck
of a good manager. But it would have been better if the A-12 had
been wrapped up in a way that didn't leave room for prolonged
litigation."?
By
Eric Ottinger
on Friday, December 08, 2000 - 11:04 am:
Anon,
You should go back and read the newspaper articles, specifically
the ones that were included in the Department of Defense "Early
Bird."
I am not taking any position on the merits of the legal
arguments one way or another.
I was merely repeating the substance of the newspaper articles
as best as I can remember.
I did not intend any kind of “rip.” I thought Cheney was a
strong, effective manager, and I very much admire him for that.
Sometimes it is important, not only to do the right thing, but
to do it in a way that doesn’t leave the door open for
subsequent litigation.
Sometimes my GC will say, “Don’t worry about that. We will win
that case in Court.” I respond, “The only case that I win is the
one that I don’t have.”
That was my point.
I think we all understand that these decisions involve several
key advisers and that it is pointless to single out any
individual.
Notwithstanding, John’s comment, I believe, OSD took some care
to state that it was the NAVAIR PCO who terminated the A-12 for
default. The contractors are arguing that the Secretary of
Defense had other motivations and other agendas.
Eric
By
Kennedy How on
Friday, December 08, 2000 - 01:07 pm:
I know I'm going to have trouble
enunciating this, but I'll give it a shot.
In the general contracting community, I believe that the
disclosures that Martin Marietta are talking about are not that
critical. This is especially true when you are talking about
non-superfocused procurements.
When you talk about cruise missiles, Arleigh Burke destroyers,
B-2 bombers, things that are really focused, limited and
basically the same 1-2 bidders being alternated with, then a
sharp corporation can start to see trends. These big companies
aren't stupid; they've done this routine for years, they know
the rules, they know what DCAA does, they know what NAVSEA/AIR/etc.
policy is. Eventually you start putting two and two together,
and your variables start to decrease. Plus, you can get info
like "well, what union represents Pascagoula", and you know what
it takes to build the item. All you have left is rates. And, we
know what the Govt's views on that are.
And, once you start getting predictable, and that's where you
head when things go on for a long time, then it gets easier. You
start looking for ways to get an advantage, which you don't want
to disclose.
From the contractor's viewpoint, I can see this. I can see this
because when I negotiated with a contractor who has a number of
different programs with us, we can talk among ourselves to see
what past history tells us. And, when said contractor merged
with somebody else, we talked to those people. Interesting!
Kennedy
By
Kennedy How on
Friday, December 08, 2000 - 01:13 pm:
Re: A-12
My personal opinion is that the Government wanted to get out of
the contract as painless as possible. A T4C on an overrun
contract would essentially pay out everything that was obligated
to that time, if the costs incurred were allowably. In a T4D,
the Government is not liable for anything.
I had a T4C once where the contractor spent the entire amount of
a FFP contract to try and manufacture an item that really
couldn't be manufactured the way it was set forth in the TDP.
The TCO had a real problem, there was another issue complicating
things, but the end result was that the contractor couldn't
recover all the costs incurred. Basically, we paid $190K for
absolutely nothing.
Kennedy
By
joel hoffman
on Saturday, December 09, 2000 - 09:13 am:
Kennedy, in your T4C situation, I
assume that the TDP was furnished the Contractor by the
Government. Is that correct? Then you said that the Contractor
wasn't reimbursed for all incurred costs. That was a little
confusing. Was this a FFP contract?
Does this mean that the Contractor didn't claim the additional
expenses were incurred in trying to meet defective Government
furnished specifications - and that the Government applied the
shared loss formula to the T4D settlement?
If defective Government furnished specifications caused the
overrun, the contractor could normally submit an REA or claim
before or during the termination settlement to justify the
overrun. Then the Government couldn't apply the rule which
requires the contractor to share in projected losses, in the
settlement. However, the contract type could have a bearing on
the set of facts.
I generally have little sympathy, except to the taxpayers, when
the Government issues a contract with defective specifications,
then receives "absolutely nothing" after a T4C, when the
Contractor, despite a valiant effort, couldn't produce the item
in accordance with the TDP. Happy Sails! joel
By
Kennedy How on
Monday, December 11, 2000 - 12:14 pm:
Joel,
Yes, it was a FFP, Govt furnished TDP. Generally speaking, the
contractor could have submitted an REA for a defective TDP, but
in this case, he didn't do so.
Kennedy
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