By
Brad Franklin on Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 04:12 pm:
The profit limitations imposed by
FAR 15.404-4 only apply to cost plus "fixed fee" contracts. I
remember a time when, I believe, profit limitations were imposed
on both cost reimburseable and fixed price contracts. Does
someone know the history as to why these limitations have been
relaxed?
Are there other regulations (besides 15.404-4) or
directives/policies which govern the amount of profit/fee a
contractor can earn on contract types other than CPFF; or even
combined contract types? For instance, could a CPIF/AF contract
provide for a 10% target fee and an additional 15% award fee?
Brad
By
Vern Edwards
on Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 05:12 pm:
To the best of my knowledge there
has not been any limitation on profit under fixed-price
contracts since the demise of the Renegotiation Act.
Before Jan. 1, 1998, FAR 15.903(d)(1) had imposed fee
limitations on CPFF, CPIF and CPAF contracts. (It had also
imposed a different "fee" limitation on all types of
architect-engineer contracts.) The FAR Part 15 Rewrite
eliminated the limitations on fee for CPIF and CPAF contracts.
The May 14, 1997 proposed rule (62 FR 26640, 26641) explained
the change as follows:
"[T]he fee limitations at 15.809-3(d) [sic] have been strictly
alighed with statute[.]"
The statute in question is 10 U.S.C. 2306(d) or 41 U.S.C.
254(b), both of which impose fee limitations on CPFF contracts.
The FAR Council and its predecessors had extended the limitation
to all cost-reimbursement contracts on their own initiative. To
the best of my knowledge there has never been a public
explanation for the change of heart.
By
joel hoffman
on Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 09:53 am:
Brad, in response to your
question asking if other regulations/directives/policies govern
the amount of profit/fee can earn on other types of contracts
than CPFF, I would like to discuss a little about FFP
construction and A/E "practical limitations."
Our Engineer FAR Supplement prescribed "alternate,
weighted-guidelines approach" limits our pre-negotiation
objectives to a range of 3-12% for FFP construction and 3-15%
for A-E contracts. In practice, it is difficult to make the
scoring rubric come up to the upper limits. Anyhow, we have been
conditioned to those limits. In fact, in my non-government
experience, "10% profit" was the standard rate, expressed in
most commercial construction proposals.
Our negotiators have been trained and conditioned through
experience to hold that these rates constitute "fair and
reasonable" equitable adjustments. In fact, I've seen case law
backing up the COE's rate, as being determined to be
"reasonable" in litigation. That record is also used as a
bargaining point, with an "unreasonable" contractor.
Usually, a contractor's first argument is "I can make more money
than your X% by investing my resources elsewhere". Well, at
first blush, it sounds like a good argument. I used to wonder
why a Contractor would bid 3-4% profit on a 4-5 year, 50 million
dollar lock and dam contract, for instance. Then I wondered why
they were in the construction business at all, if their argument
were true!
I have analyzed a typical construction contractor's probable,
investment and cash flow. In truth, a contractor's "return on
investment" can be much, much higher than its "return on sales"
(the return on sales is what we are actually negotiating). It
can be likened to comparing a supermarket's return on sales
(almost zilch) with its return on investment (good or great -
weekly or daily stock turnover). With the Government's A-E and
construction contract prompt pay requirements, monthly (or
sometimes twice monthly) invoicing, payment for stored materials
prior to payment to the suppliers, etc., a good prime
contractor's annual return on investment may be up in the 30-50%
range. Most construction contractor's actual investment is a
very low percentage of the contract price. Subcontractors'
return on investment can also be very good but their cash flow
is not as good as the primes', in general.
(So, my first response to their negotiating "argument" is they
must be in the wrong line of work. Then, if they are really
serious, I mention the difference between the superficial return
on sales and return on investment. Then they know I wasn't
fooled by their argument.)
Try analyzing a service contractor's actual return on investment
sometime...
Yes - I know - there is usually a real risk of loss on a FFP
contract for before the fact pricing. In my opinion, this is a
primary reason why FFP negotiated fee/profit margins should be
higher than that allowed on CP contracts. And yes, I know that
CP contracts usually do not assure recovery all of a
contractor's legitimate costs (there are unallowable or
unallocable costs). But the responsibility and risk to the
Contractor is much higher on a FFP contract than on CP.
I have also used provisions for award fees (providing a
pre-established, available pool of $$, not a percent of contract
amount) on FFP contracts with mixed success, depending upon how
well the award fee criteria emphasized superior performance.
Happy Sails!
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