By Anonymous
on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 04:08 pm:
A design engineer provided me
with a set of construction plans for several different wave
breaking structures. All the designs for these structures were
patented. The patent owners maintained the right to build these
structures. Our engineer was very impressed with these designs.
He wanted me to bid them out as a single demonstration project
(3 different structures).
I presented this idea to our attorney. She told me that the
Government could not use patented designs without first getting
approval from the owner of the patent. I provided this
information to the engineer and told him I would try to come up
with a way to procure the structures without breaking any laws.
I conferred with others and decided that the best way to
accomplish what the engineers wanted was to put out an RFP using
a perfomance specifcation. I felt that an RFP would allow the
patent owners to build their structures or allow contractors to
obtain construction rights from the patent owners. I also
thought an RFP would open up competition to other types of wave
breaking structures that our engineers were unaware of.
The RFP said that an offeror could supply technical proposals
for any number of wave breaking structures. Each proposed
structure was to meet the standards of a performance
specification that was included with the RFP. Each proposed
structure or technical proposal would be rated on the factors
provided in the RFP. Each technical proposal would stand on it's
own. The RFP said the purpose of the project was for the
Government to make comparisons of the effectiveness of different
types of wave breaking structures.
I recieved two proposals from two different offerors. One of the
proposals didn't meet the go/no-go evaluation criteria. With
only one proposal received the purpose of the project couldn't
be met, i.e., comparison of different structures. The RFP was
cancelled.
My name is now mud with my engineering section because I
couldn't come up with a method of getting the structures built
that they wanted. I thought the use of the RFP would provide a
means of allowing the patent owners and others in this industry
to provide their products to the Government. I was wrong.
I would like to know what other courses of action I could have
taken in this situation. Any opinion would be appreciated. Also,
was the attorney right in her assessment of the Government's use
of patented designs?
By
joel hoffman
on Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 11:04 pm:
Anon, I think your attorney's
name is mud. Assuming that your deisgn engineer KNOWS that there
are only three product systems which can meet a bonafide need,
there are ways to justify limiting competition to the three
products, under FAR part 6, exceptions to free and open
competition. Then you need to know how they market their
products - self installation or licensed to contractors to
install.
If the design engineer does not positively know, you could have
conducted market surveys, requesting technical information from
the prospective suppliers. Unless absolutely certain, I suppose
you could have used performance specs and open up competition.
That is usually safe. It probably would have been smart to
contact the three patent holders to see if they were interested
in participating in this solicitation. I would also ask details
concerning how they sell their products - do they only install
themselves or do they license installation to others? If only
themselves, you would know that no price competion is available
and that you will probably have to justify sole source
negotiations with each supplier. If they license installation,
I'd try to find out who their licensees are and let them know
about the upcoming project. I'd try to find out the best way to
write the scope of work to accommodate licensees (assure that
the project is biddable and constructible). Great 20-20
hindsight, huh? Happy Sails! Joel
By
Vern Edwards
on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 08:13 am:
Anonymous:
You say that your engineer was intrigued by a specific design
and wanted to determine its effectiveness. I think that you
could have justified a sole source acquisition for that purpose.
If your objective is to determine the effectiveness of a
specific design, then it does not make sense to use a
performance specification.
By
Anonymous
on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 09:33 am:
The project was deemed a
"demonstration" project. It was to test the effectiveness of new
and innovative wave break structures. The three patent holders
didn't license the installation of their structures, but did
their own installation. They were all sent a copy of the RFP.
I never did any type of follow-up to determine why they did not
submit proposals. The project site was isolated and extremely
difficult to access. We required very small quantities (400 LF)
of structure under the project. Those factors probably had a lot
to do with the lack of interest.
Also, I conducted very limited market research. What I found led
me to believe that there were numerous wave breaking structures
and devices available on the market. Each such potential source
was sent a RFP.
I would have loved to been able to justify limiting competition
and going out for the patented designs. After I studied Subpart
6.302, however, I felt that since other such structures and
devices were available it would be hard to justify limiting
competition. Can one justify the use of one type of structure or
design over another when others are apparently readily
available? Also, can a K.O. limit competition solely on the
basis of a design engineer wanting to test the effectiveness of
certain structures and devices (especially after market research
shows other capable structures and devices available on the
market)?
This was new ground for me and I've always kept my distance from
sole source situations. That in itself probably had a lot to do
with my going out with a performance specification.
By
Peggy Richter
on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 10:49 am:
It seems to me that you failed to
listen to your engineer: "Our engineer was very impressed with
these designs. He wanted me to bid them out as a single
demonstration project (3 different structures)". That sounds
like this should have been sole sourced as an RDT&E type
project. If, as you decided, the intent was ACTUALLY to see what
was out there, INCLUDING these patented items, then specifically
inviting all sources to a preproposal conference might have
enabled you to discover if there was a problem BEFORE the
closing date of the RFP. If you conducted limited market
research and felt there were numerous "wave breaking
structures/devices" out there, did you discuss with your
engineer WHY the patented ones were of particular interest? If
not, you failed to communicate with that engineer in an
effective manner. The first job of a contracting office is to
determine WHAT, exactly, is the Government's need.
Presuming that the desire was to explore various designs,
including the patented ones (which is not what you indicate the
engineer said), then if you only got 2 responses, of which only
one was technically adequate, you could still have awarded the
remaining proposal and evaluated it. This wouldn't have been as
desirable as receiving 10+ proposals all of which were
acceptable, but it still would have resulted in being able to
evaluate the technical approach of the winner. If the goal was
to actually evaluate the SPECIFIC usefulness of the patented
designs, yes, IMO, you made a mistake in not going sole source
to investigate THOSE specific designs.
By
Eric Ottinger
on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 12:14 pm:
We have a very successful SBIR
(Small Business Innovative Research) program for this kind of
purpose.
Before CICA, government engineers had considerable freedom to
initiate small sole source contracts in circumstance like the
Anon described. Many valuable large oaks grew from these little
acorns. The SBIR program was instituted to reopen a door, which
CICA had closed.
This may offend some of our purists. If I were Anon (and I
couldn’t go the SBIR route), I would compete an advisory and
assistance contract to study recent developments in wave
breaking technology. After I had rounded up the usual suspects
and selected a contractor to do the study, I would have given
the “consultant” contractor a free hand to identify the most
promising technologies, then to select subcontractors, do
demonstration projects and write up the results.
My underlying assumptions—
-- The demonstration projects may not be the key issue. The
process of analyzing the data, evaluating, writing up the
report, and publicizing the results may be more important in the
long run.
-- I am not unduly impressed with “big name” firms. However,
they have their uses, particularly when you need an imprimatur
to sell a new idea.
-- Anon’s engineer may be the world’s greatest authority on wave
breaking technology. But it wouldn’t hurt to find the other
world’s greatest authority on wave breaking to help out.
-- The genius inventor may be more comfortable contracting on
commercial terms with a prime contractor and less comfortable
contracting directly with the government.
I see Joel’s point but I am not sure that I could justify a sole
source simply because the offeror has a patent or my engineer
has an opinion. Many patents are trivial.
By the way, I’m not sure that Anon did anything particularly
wrong. All we really know is that he didn’t get the result that
he intended. My guess is that the typical genius inventor
becomes very cautious and suspicious when you offer him a
Government contract with a lot of strange terms and conditions.
If I were Anon, I would say that it is simply a good time to
regroup and try again. I would call up each of the three patent
holders and ask them why they didn’t participate. I expect the
answers are going to be, 1) the government contracting process
is too confusing for them and 2) they didn’t think the likely
pay-off would be enough to justify the effort. Then I would do
some strategizing to figure out how to overcome these obstacles.
Eric
By
Anonymous
on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 02:37 pm:
Lengthy discussions were held
with the design engineer, with several of our engineers for that
matter. The engineers main objective was to find something that
would work other than a rock structure. Through my limited
market research I found at least 25 firms that dealt exclusively
with wave breaking structures and/or devices, almost all of them
were not located in close proximity to the project site. With
that many known sources I felt confident that we would get good
competition. I was wrong.
Also, I was taught that sole source procurements are the least
preferred and last resort. Least preferred in that if there is
any way you can do it competitively, you do it. Last resort in
that if you've exhausted all your options for obtaining
competition, you cautiously proceed with sole source. Sole
source procurement is therefore foreign to me.
Question: If I would have gone sole source, what exactly would
have been my authority to go with other than full and open
competition (from 6.302)? I am unfamiliar with RDT&E project
types.
I will attempt to look at things differently in the future.
By
Eric Ottinger
on Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 04:48 pm:
Anon,
There is a distinction (largely lost) between “sole source” and
“single source.” A sole source is absolutely the only individual
or firm that can provide a product or service.
You need to get in touch with each of these 25 and find out
whether the firm has any interest in selling to the Government.
If the answer is “No” you should find out why.
Getting back to Small Business Innovative Research-- Although
private side funding is not an absolute requirement for our SBIR
contractors, it is a big selection factor. Typically, we plant
the seed with an initial development contract. The contractor
finds venture capital funding and a commercial market, and
further develops the technology. Then, somewhere down the road,
BMDO incorporates the technology with a great improvement in
performance or savings in cost. Successful technologies usually
benefit from this kind of Government/commercial market synergy.
I think you need to do more market research. Specifically, you
need to ask what your 25 potential sources are doing in other
markets. If there is a commercial market for this kind of
product, why don’t you leverage off of the commercial market?
You may find that your demonstrations have already been
accomplished for other customers.
Generally, I sense that you have some reluctance to communicate
directly with these 25 potential offerors. You shouldn’t. If
before the first competition you had called each of these guys
up and sold them on the idea that you really want to do a
competition and promote this new technology, you might have
received more offers.
Firms tend to interpret a “cold fish” or standoffish attitude on
the Government’s part as an indication that the Government isn’t
really interested or doesn’t really want competition. This is
perfectly rational from their point of view.
Eric
By
Peggy Richter
on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 10:55 am:
"lengthy discussions were held
with the design engineer, with several of our engineers for that
matter. The engineers main objective was to find something that
would work other than a rock structure. Through my limited
market research I found at least 25 firms that dealt exclusively
with wave breaking structures and/or devices"
Question: of those 25, how many dealt with other than rock
structures? If you didn't know, that was a problem. Of those 25,
how many had ever dealt with the Government previously? If it
was only a small number, this may have indicated to you that
some special encouragement to start dealing with the Government
was in order.
And again, you in fact DID get competition - you got 2
proposals, of which one was apparently acceptable. Under FAR
regulations, that is a competitive buy (the bidder who won is
presumed to have bid in a competitive environment, since they
presumably do not know that their only competition is not going
to be technically acceptable). So you could easily have awarded
to the technically acceptable responder. I am somewhat mystified
as to why you did not and can well understand the technical
engineer's point of view on it.
By
Vern Edwards
on Friday, November 17, 2000 - 03:07 pm:
Anonymous:
You have told two very different stories here. Your first story
was that your engineer wanted to test particular designs:
"A design engineer provided me with a set of construction plans
for several different wave breaking structures. All the designs
for these structures were patented. The patent owners maintained
the right to build these structures. Our engineer was very
impressed with these designs. He wanted me to bid them out as a
single demonstration project (3 different structures)."
Your second story appears to be that your engineer was
interested in testing any design that was not a rock
structure:
"The engineers main objective was to find something that
would work other than a rock structure."
Your two stories describe two very different acquisition
objectives, for which different acquisition strategies would
have been appropriate. Which of your two stories describes what
really happened?
By
Anonymous
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 09:13 am:
Both.
The engineer was interested in testing any non-traditional
structure (traditional being rock)and was also very interested
to three of them in particular. He had knowledge of many such
structures/devices and if not for limited funding would have
wanted to test a lot more than just the three he happen to
choose. The engineer happened to choose the three that, in his
opinion, would give the test more bang for it's buck.
In my opinion, I couldn't go sole source, knowing that there
were other non-traditional structures/devices in existence that
could meet the main objective of the project.
And Peggy...all 25 were non-traditional structures/devices; I
didn't check if any had done prior Government work; yes, I did
get "competition", but not "good competition"; and award to a
single offeror would have defeated the purpose of the project,
i.e., to compare the effectiveness of different structures.
Could someone explain to me what 6.302 says about competition
when more than one offeror exists. I think I'm confused.
By
Anonymous
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 09:49 am:
Make that, explain to me how to
make a sole source award when it is known that more than one
source is able to provide the services.
By
Vern Edwards
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 10:52 am:
Anonymous:
All I can say is that the you and your engineer needed to
determine the objectives and scope of the acquisition and then
select an appropriate acquisition strategy.
Apparently, several firms owned designs of interest but were
unwilling to let other firms build wave breakers based on their
designs. You therefore would either have had to (a) contract
with each of them on a sole source basis or (b) hire a
contractor to conduct the demonstrations under subcontracts with
the designers. I don't know which approach would have been more
appropriate under the circumstances.
Your strategy may have failed to elicit more than two proposals
because your RFP did not make your intentions clear.
Did the RFP say that you planned to make a single award or
multiple awards?
If the RFP said that you planned to make a single award, did the
S.O.W. say that you wanted the contractor to enter into
subcontracts with several firms in order to test their designs?
Before you released the RFP, did you communicate with the top
level management of each of the several design firms to explain
your objectives and strategy and secure their cooperation?
By
Peggy Richter
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 11:09 am:
You are confusing the full and
open competition requirements with the RESPONSES from
contractors.
FAR 6.003 -- Definitions."Full and open competition," when used
with respect to a contract action, means that all responsible
sources are permitted to compete. -- if you in fact did that,
YOU HAD FULL AND OPEN COMPETITION. What you did not get was the
expected # of responses.
You have stated that the engineer was particularly interested in
testing a patented design. You opted not to go sole source and
attempt to obtain these directly, which could have clearly been
possible. You apparently determined that this wasn't really what
the engineer wanted - that they wanted to explore multiple non
traditional methods and you issued a Full and open solicitation
for that and having GOTTEN a responsive responsible proposal,
decided that this was not good enough, because you didn't get
multiple responses. You weren't REQUIRED to obtain multiple
responses. You are required to make a good faith effort to
obtain multiple responses via a full and open solicitation. The
FAR does not require you to obtain them. The engineer could
easily have evaluated the one acceptable response you recieved.
Both FAR part 14 and part 15 address, if indirectly, how you
handle a single acceptable response once you have complied with
part 6.
14.404-1 -- Cancellation of Invitations After Opening.(a) (1)
Preservation of the integrity of the competitive bid system
dictates that, after bids have been opened, award must be made
to that responsible bidder who submitted the lowest responsive
bid, unless there is a compelling reason to reject all bids and
cancel the invitation.-- the wording of this section clearly
allows you to award to the acceptable source even if you only
receive 2 bids, only one of which is acceptable. Same for
section 15 which deals with RFPs:
15.403 -- Obtaining Cost or Pricing Data. (A) Based on the offer
received, the contracting officer can reasonably conclude that
the offer was submitted with the expectation of competition,
e.g., circumstances indicate that --
(1) The offeror believed that at least one other offeror was
capable of submitting a meaningful offer; and
(2) The offeror had no reason to believe that other potential
offerors did not intend to submit an offer; and
By
Anonymous
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 12:09 pm:
RFP said Government intended to
make multiple awards (up to four awards for varying
structures/devices could be made). There was no conversation
between the Government and any of the firms, with the exception
of sending out an RFP for them to consider. I've learned through
this "chat" that communications between the Government and
potential sources are very important, especially when the
potential sources have never been involved with Federal
contracts. In such cases, the K.O. should, among other things,
do a thorough job of market research, communicate needs of
Government with potential sources, and carefully listen to
concerns of potential sources. K.O. should also do a good job of
listening to his/her design engineer in order to best determine
the exact needs of the Government and address these needs to the
potential sources.
Sounds like a lot of work for such a small project.
By
Eric Ottinger
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 12:30 pm:
Anon,
I drafted the following before your latest. I can see that we
are getting through, so forgive some redundancy.
The project is small, but it may have some very large long term
consequences. You have the opportunity to help make some
fundamental changes in the way things are done in this
particular field.
The requirement to compete isn’t a preference. It is an
imperative.
I agree with my colleagues. (It is kind of nice that we are all
saying essentially the same thing.) I have only a somewhat
different emphasis.
I can’t really blame your engineer for having a clear idea about
what he wants. However, if the other twenty-two already know
that he has more or less preselected three out of the twnty-five,
you shouldn’t be surprised that none of the other twenty-two
chose to participate. Two of the three may have looked at this
and decided that there wasn’t enough in it for them to make it
worth their while. And there you are, with one offeror.
You should always assume that in a small, specialized community
of experts, the grapevine is going to work really well.
Accordingly, be very careful what signals you send. (Keep in
mind that bureaucratic passivity, defensiveness and
standoffishness are also signals.)
However, if your engineer has done his research, there may be
some “got to have” selection factors which legitimately narrow
the field to three offerors. You may have the basis for a solid
J&A, but you need to do your homework.
If you do another competition, you need to put the selection
process in the hands of someone who clearly doesn’t have any
preconceived ideas. And you need to talk to the potential
offerors and find out what the world looks like from their point
of view.
You haven’t really done anything terribly wrong. I think some of
criticism is overstated. However, you are doing a good job of
illustrating the difference between the old defensive, “go
through the right bureaucratic motions” paradigm and the new
“think like a businessman” paradigm. In the new paradigm you
“add value” by knowing the market (i.e. communicating with those
potential offerors), strategizing, and getting a good result for
your customer. It is necessary that you do all of this within
the rules, but that isn’t where you earn your pay.
Vern is right that you should be talking directly to the top
people in these twenty-five firms. I don’t think this would be
apparent to most working contract specialists, who have been
trained to do everything in writing (staffed and approved), and
to be intimidated by real and imagined issues of bureaucratic
protocol.
You need to do your market research. You need to find out what
the world looks like from the point of view of you potential
offereors. Then you need to shape a strategy based on what you
find out.
I really think you are doing all right. However, if you don’t
get on the phone with some of these folks before you come back
to this forum, I shall write you off as hopeless and unteachable.
Tell us what you find out (being careful to omit anything
“business sensitive” or “acquisition sensitive,” of course.)
Eric
By
Anonymous
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 02:43 pm:
The actions described aren't
recent. They occurred some time ago. Unless the action
resurfaces I won't make any calls to the entities I identified
as possible sources.
When the engineers learned that none of their sources (the three
sources whose structures they were very interested in) submitted
proposals and that the proposals submitted were not really
desirable, they happily decided to go back to a traditional rock
structure.
As I originally stated in my first message I was trying to get
information on possible alternate courses of action. I believe I
have received a lot of useful information on the subject.
There is still one thing I don't understand. What would have
given me the authority to award non-competitive contracts to the
original three sources provided by the design engineer. To put
the question another way, what circumstance described in Subpart
6.302 applies here? I just can't figure that one out.
Hopeless and Unteachable
By
Eric Ottinger
on Monday, November 20, 2000 - 04:16 pm:
Anon,
FAR 6.302-1 Only one responsible source and no other supplies or
services will satisfy agency requirements.
(a) Authority. (1) Citations: 10 U.S.C. 2304(c)(1) or 41 U.S.C.
253(c)(1).
(2) "When the supplies or services required by the agency are
available from only one responsible source, or, for DoD, NASA,
and the Coast Guard, from only one or a limited number of
responsible sources, and no other type of supplies or services
will satisfy agency requirements, full and open competition need
not be provided for."
If you are DoD, NASA, or the Coast Guard, you write one J&A.
Otherwise, I would write three separate sole source, J&As. 1)
The supplies and services required are only available from one
source. (Only one source owns the patent.) And, 2) no other type
of supplies or services will satisfy agency requirements (which
are to have three demonstration projects and compare them).
I would talk to enough people to make sure this is the truth.
Then I would advertise my intentions in the CBD to give the
other potential offerors an opportunity to object, if they
should choose to do so.
There are two aspects. 1) Is this only available from one
source, and 2) does this uniquely satisfy your agency’s
requirement. If you take each in turn, I think you can get a
viable answer.
Your agency’s unique need is three approaches to do a
demonstration, and each of the three is only available from the
owner of the patent.
I commend your good sense of humor.
Eric
By
Ramon Jackson on Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 08:53 am:
It appears to me that everyone
became confused on the purpose of the exercise. The
demonstration aspect, "He wanted me to bid them out as a single
demonstration project (3 different structures)" would seem to
support sole source for the explicit items to be demonstrated. I
believe specific test articles are obtained routinely for such
evaluations.
The effort probably should have been put into justifying the
limit on items to be demonstrated as a reasonable scope
limitation. Why three and not four? why these designs? I would
think a combination of straightforward engineering and budget
parameters could provide reasonable justification for picking a
limited set of commercially available evaluation subjects to be
obtained for that explicit purpose through sole source. It takes
work, but most worthwhile results take work.
A more interesting approach warrants discussion (I suggest a
different thread). Under what conditions and rules can the
government state it has a future requirement for a commercial
product along with a call for interested parties to participate
in demonstration and tests without direct government funding
for acquisition of test items.
I am thinking explicitly of a situation in which government
would fund independent analysis of an installed base or perhaps
even the developer's own test subjects in with the cooperation
of the developer, but other situations might be applicable.
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