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qui on Monday, October 09, 2000 - 07:00 pm:
Under the 8(a) and the HUBZone
program, contracting officers are required by law to compete
contracts over $3 million and $5 million depending on the item
acquired. The contracting officer worked to rig a sole-source
procurement in violation of law. Here is a quote from the link
below By C MERCY on Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 10:05 am: THE THRESHOLDS YOU MENTION APPLY TO 8A CONTRACTS NOT HUBZONES. HUBZONES ABOVE 2.5K MUST BE COMPETED UNLESS SUPPORTED BY A SOLE SOURCE JUSTIFICATION. SECONDLY, IF THE GSA ESTIMATE WAS BELOW THREE MILLION, THE KO IS NOT "BREAKING THE LAW". HE MAY HAVE HAD A BUDGET LIMIT OR DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO RE-COMPETE AMONGST ALL QUALIFIED 8A FIRMS. ALSO THERE IS A PROCEDURE AVAILABLE TO SOLE SOURCE ABOVE THE THRESHOLDS. INSTEAD OF REDUCING THE REQUIREMENT THE KO MIGHT HAVE CONSULTED WITH THE SBA FIRST TO SEE IF AWARD MAY HAVE BEEN MADE IN SPITE OF THE INITIAL RESULTS. By joel hoffman on Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 05:16 pm: According to the GAO Decision,
the Agency was in violation of the law. However, the protestor
lacked standing, so there was no redress. qui's questions are
interesting. I'd surmise that the CO thought he was within the
law by reducing the award to under $3 million. That may answer
the "why?" question. As to "...what is done when they are caught
redhanded like this?" - I don't know. Happy Sails! By joel hoffman on Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 05:20 pm: Pardon me. It appears to be a Court of Federal Claims Decision, not GAO. Happy Sails! By Linda Koone on Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 07:49 am: In reading this case in its
entirety, I believe the CO was primarily guilty of poor
documentation to support his decisions and actions. By bob antonio on Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 08:40 am: Linda: By C MERCY on Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 09:09 am: I BELIEVE THE RESULTS BOB MENTIONS ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF HOW THE COMPETITIVE 8A PROCESS IS ENGINEERED,NOT MERELY BECAUSE THE THRESHOLDS EXIST. IN SOLE SOURCE 8A PROCUREMENTS KOS AND TECHNICAL STAFFS CAN FULLY EXPLORE A FIRMS CAPABILITIES BEFORE MAKING AN OFFER. IN THE COMPETITIVE 8A SCENARIO ITS THE SBA WHO PROVIDES THE FIRMS. ALMOST ALWAYS ITS EVERY FIRM THAT CLAIMS A SIC. THERE IS LITTLE OR NO MARKET RESEARCH,MANY SOLICITATIONS HAVE TO BE ISSUED AND EXTENSIVE EVALUATIONS HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED. IF AGENCIES WERE PERMITTED TO SELECT 8AS FOR THE COMPETITION,USING THE SAME DUE DILIGENCE ONE MIGHT EXPECT WHEN SEEKING A SINGLE SOURCE, MANY MORE COMPETITIVE 8A PROCUREMENTS WOULD SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.OR IF THE SBA WOULD PROVIDE FIRMS WHICH WERE TRULY INTERESTED,COMPETENT AND ABLE, THE SAME RESULT WOULD BE EXPECTED. COMPETITIVE 8AS ARE AVOIDED BECAUSE THERE IS RISK ENOUGH WITH OUT MULTIPLYING THE EFFORT REQUIRED AS THINGS NOW STAND.I KNOW SEVERAL KOS WHO LOVE THE IDEA OF COMPETITIVE 8A PROCUREMENTS BUT HAVE BEEN BURNED IN THE PAST BY HAVING TO DEAL WITH MANY ,MANY FIRMS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PERFORM SOME GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS BUT NOT THE ONES THEY PROPOSED. By Kennedy How on Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:14 pm: I've never really liked 8(a)
set-asides when it was forced onto me; it was a much better deal
when we actively went out and did the market research on our own
to determine who was qualified to perform what we wanted on the
SoW. There were a couple of instances where the PM office found
a technically qualified 8(a) contractor to do System Tech
Support work; they wanted him, we can do a 8(a) set-aside, the
command and SBA were happy. But, it was too good to be true,
because before we could effect a contract, the guy graduated
from the program! In the second instance, we got into a dispute
over size classification, and the didn't qualify then. By bob antonio on Friday, October 13, 2000 - 07:50 am: C Mercy and Kennedy: By C MERCY on Friday, October 13, 2000 - 09:34 am: NO . ITS THAT THEY SELECT WHICH FIRMS THE AGENCY CAN DEAL WITH. I RECALL ONE PROCUREMENT WHERE THEY SENT US A LIST OF THIRTY SIX 8A COMPANIES FOR A 3.2M FOOD SERVICE BUY. THE SELECTION FACTORS USED IN PREPARING THE LIST,I LEARNED LATER,WERE ALPHABETIC LISTING. SEVERAL OF THE FIRMS ON THE LIST HAD NEITHER THE INTEREST NOR THE ABILITY TO COMPETE. ALL I WAS SUGGESTING WAS THAT COMPETITIVE 8A SOLICITATIONS WOULD BE INCREASED IF THE AGENCY,AND NOT THE SBA, WERE PERMITTED TO ESTABLISH THE LIST.PERHAPS A RULE REQUIRING AGENCIES TO INCLUDE NOT LESS THAN FIVE 8A FIRMS ON THE LIST MIGHT BE USEFUL.. ALSO,ALTHOUGH I SUPPORT THE IDEA OR REQUIRING 8A COMPETITION, I THINK IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE MENTIONED THAT PROPOSAL PREPARATION CAN BE EXPENSIVE AND MANY OF THE FIRMS SELECTED BY THE SBA CAN SIMPLY NOT AFFORD TO PARTICIPATE IN EVERY ACQUISITION THAT IS WHY I THINK LIMITED COMPETITIONS AMONGST QUALIFIED 8A FIRMS MAKES SENSE.ALSO,WITH FEWER PLAYERS THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY ONE 8A FIRM WINNING, ARE INCREASED. By joel hoffman on Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:00 am: Cap't Mercy, yes, the SBA often
sends us the wrong contractors. However, I can and do reject
their selection when appropriate. Unfortunately, sometimes only
after the 8(a) submits its proposal do I discover a sham set-up
or non-competent choice. We go back and find another firm. By C MERCY on Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:28 am: As I said,Ilike competitive 8a procurements. Another advantage is the ease of setting up 8a MAS. By Kennedy How on Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:00 pm: Bob, By Rob Bristow on Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 12:03 pm: Contracting officers breaking the
law? What nonsense is this? I would guess that lazy program
officials were calling the shots and the contracting office went
along to get along. |