By joel hoffman
on Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 08:47 am:
The below question was posted to
the Ask a Professor website, under Pre-Award Procurement and
Contracting on 1/19/01 by XXXXXX.
"The Scenario
An IDIQ contract is going to be the result of this requirement.
We're trying to find out the best method to solicit for it.
"The Question
Can you use a RFQ to award an IDIQ type contract? Or is an RFP
the best route to go since it would include all required
clauses. Also, the contractor would have a clearer idea of what
he is quoting on. "
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Joel, here, is also ignorant about requests for quotations. Can
somebody give me a primer on RFQ's and specifically answer
XXXX's question? I thought RFQ's were a means to ask for quotes,
rather than firm proposals but have seen considerable discussion
about contracts or PO's issued in response to quotes. I seek
guidance from anyone, including ANON's of all types!
I found a FAR reference in Part 13 Simplied Acquisitions. It
appears that an RFQ is intended to seek quotes, probably
appropriate for small purchases. If the Government buyer finds
the best deal, the Government issues a purchase order (offer to
buy at the quoted price and conditions?). The seller can accept
or reject the Government's offer.
Here is the FAR reference:
"13.004 Legal effect of quotations.
(a) A quotation is not an offer and, consequently, cannot be
accepted by the Government to form a binding contract.
Therefore, issuance by the Government of an order in response to
a supplier's quotation does not establish a contract. The order
is an offer by the Government to the supplier to buy certain
supplies or services upon specified terms and conditions. A
contract is established when the supplier accepts the offer.
(b) When appropriate, the contracting officer may ask the
supplier to indicate acceptance of an order by notification to
the Government, preferably in writing, as defined at 2.101. In
other circumstances, the supplier may indicate acceptance by
furnishing the supplies or services ordered or by proceeding
with the work to the point where substantial performance has
occurred.
(c) If the Government issues an order resulting from a
quotation, the Government may (by written notice to the
supplier, at any time before acceptance occurs) withdraw, amend,
or cancel its offer. (See 13.302-4 for procedures on termination
or cancellation of purchase orders.)"
Although the reference is under Part 13, does anything prevent
the Government from using RFQ's for larger acquisitions?
Happy Sails! Joel
By
Anonymous
on Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 10:28 am:
Joel,
I know of a few agencies (mostly doing R&D efforts) that use
RFQs as a means to solicit quotes/proposals. They then conduct
competitive discussions/negotiations with the highest ranked
respondees. The reason is they want to allow maximum flexibility
in responding (use of fixed priced as well as cost reimbursement
contract types, educational institutions as well as for profit
companies, etc.). In essence, they evaluate and select the best
qualified source on the basis of capability, experience, novel
approach, etc., and then negotiate things like contract type,
T&Cs, prices, etc. with the selected firm.
By
Eric Ottinger
on Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 11:06 am:
Joel,
See FAR 16.505 Ordering.
"(b) Orders under multiple award contracts--(1) Fair
opportunity. (i) The contracting officer must provide each
awardee a fair opportunity to be considered for each order
exceeding $2,500 issued under multiple delivery-order contracts
or multiple task-order contracts, except as provided for in
paragraph (b)(2) of this section.
(ii) The contracting officer may exercise broad discretion in
developing appropriate order placement procedures. The
contracting officer should keep submission requirements to a
minimum. Contracting officers may use streamlined procedures,
including oral presentations. In addition, the contracting
officer need not contact each of the multiple awardees under the
contract before selecting an order awardee if the contracting
officer has information available to ensure that each awardee is
provided a fair opportunity to be considered for each order. The
competition requirements in part 6 and the policies in subpart
15.3 do not apply to the ordering process. However, the
contracting officer must--
(A) Develop placement procedures that will provide each awardee
a fair opportunity to be considered for each order and that
reflect the requirement and other aspects of the contracting
environment;
(B) Not use any method (such as allocation or designation of any
preferred awardee) that would not result in fair consideration
being given to all awardees prior to placing each order;
(C) Tailor the procedures to each acquisition;
(D) Include the procedures in the solicitation and the contract;
and
(E) Consider price or cost under each order as one of the
factors in the selection decision.
…
(B) Formal evaluation plans or scoring of quotes or offers are
not required.
…
(3) Pricing orders. If the contract did not establish the price
for the supply or service, the contracting officer must
establish prices for each order using the policies and methods
in subpart 15.4.
(4) Decision documentation for orders. The contracting officer
must document in the contract file the rationale for placement
and price of each order."
Note that 16.505 carefully avoids using the terms “offer,”
“proposal,” and “quote.” The terms are “procedure” and
“submission requirements.”
I believe the correct answer is to do whatever makes sense for
the particular task or delivery order. It is important to
understand that FASA created a new type of vehicle with new
rules. The intent was to allow the maximum of flexibility.
The offerors can provide anything from a formal proposal to a
quick stand-up briefing. Generally, the smaller the order, the
simpler the procedure should be.
If the agency doesn’t provide a range of procedures depending on
the size and complexity of the order, two bad things happen. All
of the orders are done with Part 15 type procedures, making the
whole process onerous for the technical customer and contractor.
And, the technical customer will lump requirements together to
minimize the amount of effort required for source selections.
As far as I can see, it doesn’t matter whether the PCO receives
an offer (i.e. proposal) in response to a “Request for
Proposals” (RFP) or a quote (which is not an offer). FAR 16.505
can be satisfied with even less.
Eric
By
joel hoffman on Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 07:04 pm:
Eric, I beleive the original
question was in relation to award of the initial contract, not
orders after award. Something like "Can I use an RFQ to solicit
quotes, then award an ID/IQ contract?" Happy Sails! Joel
By
joel hoffman
on Friday, January 26, 2001 - 08:28 am:
Thanks, ANON.
I guess I need to go back and research RFQ's some more! The only
reference I saw in my FAR Internet search, yesterday, was under
Simplified Acquisition in Part 13.
Good Grief,how I hate having to thumb through a book on the
Internet!!! I can "speedread" through a hard copy to find a
topic - not on this dadgummed computer! OKAY - somebody out
there is going to tell me how backward I am and how some program
will allow me to find anything, anywhere. I don't think Bob's
FAR link had word search capability but will look again. Happy
Sails!
By
C Mercy on Friday, January 26, 2001 - 08:53 am:
Joel it would make a difference
if you were acquiring commercial items or services or not. It
would also make a difference if the value was known. So if
commercial would it exceed five million? If not commercial is it
greater than 100K?
By
John Ford on
Friday, January 26, 2001 - 03:39 pm:
Joel, although the FAR only
discusses quotes in regard to Part 13, it does say a quote is
not an offer which can be accepted by the Government issuing an
order. That may be true in regard to acquisitions under the FAR,
however, I do not believe it is true in regard to acquisitions
using GSA schedules. When acquiring services under GSA
schedules, it is common to ask for quotes then issue an order
against the schedule based on those quotes. The difference may
be that there is a contract already in place against which an
order can be placed, similar to IDIQ contracts Eric discussed.
By
joel hoffman on Friday, January 26, 2001 - 04:08 pm:
Thanks, everyone. Happy Sails!
Joel
By
Eric Ottinger
on Friday, January 26, 2001 - 05:04 pm:
Joel and All,
I am going to make a distinction between the “traditional ID/IQ”
and the “FASA ID/IQ.”
The traditional ID/IQ, going back 10 or 15 years into the past,
was limited to fixed price, commercial type items.
The FASA ID/IQ is something else altogether.
I take it “Request for Quotations” means request for price
quotes. In any case, that is what I would infer from the Form
18.
I think the person asking the question is looking for some way
to do some kind of pre-qualification scheme. We discussed these
issues at length on the old Water Cooler.
I believe, as much as we would like to simplify the source
selection process, we are not free to narrow down the number of
offerors without evaluating all of the criteria or at least the
mandatory criteria in the FAR.
If the ID/IQ is a “traditional ID/IQ” with nothing to negotiate
but price, I don’t see a problem.
Eric
By
Robert Jackson on Saturday, March 03, 2001 - 08:46 pm:
If a project is not going to be
over the formal bid threshold or less than the formal bid
process. Other than requesting prices. How would you know get
the best value. If you recevie three quotes and they are all
different, it is more than likely that you would do a PO from
the RFQ with the lowest dollar amount. How else would you get
the best value? If it is an ID/IQ not exceeding the amount of
15,000. If a PO is not issued how will it be handle?
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