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By rt on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:05 am: I am new to this site and undoubtedly this has been addressed before, but, nonetheless, consider a solicitation, for multiple items, to result in an indefinite quantity contract. All of the items are sole source to the same manufacturer. Some of the items are commercial and some are non-commercial. Our determinations of commerciality are fairly reliable, I think. Combining the commercial and the non-commercial on the same solicitation is generally discouraged but as far as I know it is not prohibited. Since all of the items are made by the same manufacturer, it seems to me it would be appropriate to try to combine them. Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated. By Vern Edwards on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:25 am: I suppose that you could establish one contract line item for the commercial items and another for the non-commercial items and apply different clauses to each. But why do it? By Peggy Richter on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:38 am: You don't indicate if the items are related in any way other than being made by the same manufacturer. Are they related? (ie, are they all "generators" or are they all components of some larger item such as spares for an aircraft engine?) By Kennedy How on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:47 pm: We've done this, as has DLA, when they issue what is known as a "Corporate" contract. This is where you contract with the OEM for his entire catalog, whether they make the item or not. We use his catalog price for these items. Some items are truly commercial, they go on the same piece of equipment that private industry uses. Some aren't; they may be ruggedized, or the military is now the only user because it's obsolete in the rest of the world. But it's all under the big catalog of parts, with no delineation as to what it goes on. DLA pushed this quite a bit, for consumables. Application-uniques are still managed by us, but we use that catalog nonetheless. Kennedy By rt on Monday, October 02, 2000 - 11:06 am: Thank you for your comments. Peggy- they are components (spares) of larger items. Kennedy- I am interested in learning more about the process of contracting for an entire catolog. I envision a number of obstacles such as the J&A, the bundling issue, and others. I would appreciate any suggestions for additional reading and research.

Combining commercial and non-commercial

By rt on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:05 am:

I am new to this site and undoubtedly this has been addressed before, but, nonetheless, consider a solicitation, for multiple items, to result in an indefinite quantity contract. All of the items are sole source to the same manufacturer. Some of the items are commercial and some are non-commercial. Our determinations of commerciality are fairly reliable, I think. Combining the commercial and the non-commercial on the same solicitation is generally discouraged but as far as I know it is not prohibited. Since all of the items are made by the same manufacturer, it seems to me it would be appropriate to try to combine them. Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.

By Vern Edwards on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:25 am:

I suppose that you could establish one contract line item for the commercial items and another for the non-commercial items and apply different clauses to each. But why do it?

By Peggy Richter on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:38 am:

You don't indicate if the items are related in any way other than being made by the same manufacturer. Are they related? (ie, are they all "generators" or are they all components of some larger item such as spares for an aircraft engine?)

By Kennedy How on Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:47 pm:

We've done this, as has DLA, when they issue what is known as a "Corporate" contract. This is where you contract with the OEM for his entire catalog, whether they make the item or not. We use his catalog price for these items. Some items are truly commercial, they go on the same piece of equipment that private industry uses. Some aren't; they may be ruggedized, or the military is now the only user because it's obsolete in the rest of the world. But it's all under the big catalog of parts, with no delineation as to what it goes on.

DLA pushed this quite a bit, for consumables. Application-uniques are still managed by us, but we use that catalog nonetheless.

Kennedy

By rt on Monday, October 02, 2000 - 11:06 am:

Thank you for your comments.
Peggy- they are components (spares) of larger items.
Kennedy- I am interested in learning more about the process of contracting for an entire catolog. I envision a number of obstacles such as the J&A, the bundling issue, and others. I would appreciate any suggestions for additional reading and research.